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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: [pve-devel] [PATCH docs] lvm: add note about requirements of snapshot-as-volume-chains
Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2025 11:52:08 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20250725095208.249266-1-f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com> (raw)

Signed-off-by: Fabian Grünbichler <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
---

Notes:
    not sure whether we want to also add a note suggesting to (heavily)
    overprovision the LUN/backing device on the storage side, so that there is
    enough "space" for creating snapshots?

 pve-storage-lvm.adoc | 8 ++++++--
 1 file changed, 6 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/pve-storage-lvm.adoc b/pve-storage-lvm.adoc
index 6928330..c508fe1 100644
--- a/pve-storage-lvm.adoc
+++ b/pve-storage-lvm.adoc
@@ -57,8 +57,7 @@ snapshot's name and starts a new volume backed by the snapshot.
 +
 A volume based on a snapshot references its parent snapshot volume as its
 backing volume and records only the differences to that backing volume.
-Snapshot volumes are currently thick-provisioned LVM logical volumes, but the
-underlying block storage may provide thin provisioning.
+Snapshot volumes are currently thick-provisioned LVM logical volumes.
 +
 This design avoids issues with native LVM snapshots, such as significant
 input/output (I/O) penalties and unexpected, dangerous behavior when running out
@@ -74,6 +73,11 @@ functionality.
 The snapshot functionality is managed by the PVE storage system.
 +
 Enabling or disabling this flag only affects newly created virtual disk volumes.
++
+For efficient support of `snapshot-as-volume-chain`, the backing storage must
+support thin-provisioning and discard. Each snapshot will appear to use the
+full volume size on the PVE side, but the actual space usage on the underlying
+storage will be smaller if those requirements are met.
 
 .Configuration Example (`/etc/pve/storage.cfg`)
 ----
-- 
2.39.5



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Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-07-25  9:52 Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2025-07-27 12:03 ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-07-28  8:27   ` Fabian Grünbichler

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