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From: Alexandre Derumier <aderumier@odiso.com>
To: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: [pve-devel] [PATCH-SERIES v2 qemu-server/manager] add and set x86-64-v2 as default model for new vms
Date: Wed, 17 May 2023 18:14:23 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20230517161425.1690282-1-aderumier@odiso.com> (raw)

Hi,

we used kvm64 as default cpumodel since the begin of proxmox. (basically, it's like a pentium4 cpu flags).

New distros like rhel9 are compiled to use more modern cpu flags.
(and windows already use new flags since year, and we already add some extra cpu flags)

"
In 2020, AMD, Intel, Red Hat, and SUSE worked together to define
three microarchitecture levels on top of the historical x86-64
baseline:

  * x86-64-v1: original x86_64 baseline instruction set
  * x86-64-v2: vector instructions up to Streaming SIMD
               Extensions 4.2 (SSE4.2)  and Supplemental
               Streaming SIMD Extensions 3 (SSSE3), the
               POPCNT instruction, and CMPXCHG16B
  * x86-64-v3: vector instructions up to AVX2, MOVBE,
               and additional bit-manipulation instructions.
  * x86-64-v4: vector instructions from some of the
               AVX-512 variants.

"


This patch series add new models inspired from a patch was found on qemu mailing, but never appplied

https://lore.kernel.org/all/20210526144038.278899-1-berrange@redhat.com/T/


In addition to theses model, I have enabled aes too.
I think it's really important, because a lot of users use default values and have
bad performance with ssl and other crypto stuffs.


This was discussed on the qemu mailing

"
Crypto accelerator caveats
==========================

Similarly I'm not a huge fan of leaving out the "aes"
instruction for accelerated crypto, as missing "aes" is
also one of the key factors in making qemu64 a bad choice.

If we include 'aes' in x86-64-v2, then we loose support
for Nehalem hosts.

If we include 'aes' in x86-64-v3 then we further loose
support for Dhyana hosts (an EPYC derived CPU).
"

Nahelemn is a 2008 cpu, so I think it's ok, we are in 2013 ;)
(and user can disable aes flag in gui too)

That mean than the minimum compatible cpu for v2 is Intel Westmere (2010)
and Amd Bulldozer (2011).


This patch series add new models, and set x86-64-abi2 model as default in pve-manager
wizard only.
(to not break current vm, where kvm64 is the default when cputype is not defined
in configuration)


changelog v2:
 - remove qemu patch and implement new models in qemu-server
 - use x86-64-vX instead x86-64-abiX  (less confusing for user)
 - don't expose v4 model for now (need epyc v4 for testing)
 - use add and set x86-64-v2 as default model for new vms
 

qemu-server:

Alexandre Derumier (1):
  cpuconfig: add new x86-64-vX models

 PVE/QemuServer/CPUConfig.pm | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++--
 1 file changed, 31 insertions(+), 2 deletions(-)

pve-manager:

Alexandre Derumier (1):
  qemu: processor : set x86-64-v2 as default cputype for create wizard

 www/manager6/qemu/OSDefaults.js    |  1 +
 www/manager6/qemu/ProcessorEdit.js | 13 +++++++++++++
 2 files changed, 14 insertions(+)

-- 
2.30.2




             reply	other threads:[~2023-05-17 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 3+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-05-17 16:14 Alexandre Derumier [this message]
2023-05-17 16:14 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 qemu-server 1/1] cpuconfig: add new x86-64-vX models Alexandre Derumier
2023-05-17 16:14 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v2 pve-manager 1/1] qemu: processor : set x86-64-v2 as default cputype for create wizard Alexandre Derumier

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