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* [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs] ha crs: remove technology preview note of static-load scheduler
@ 2024-12-13 14:32 Hannes Duerr
  2024-12-13 14:49 ` Fiona Ebner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Hannes Duerr @ 2024-12-13 14:32 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pve-devel

The static load scheduler feature was applied on 17/11/2022 [0] and can
be considered stable now

[0] https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20221117140018.105004-1-f.ebner@proxmox.com/

Signed-off-by: Hannes Duerr <h.duerr@proxmox.com>
---
 ha-manager.adoc | 2 --
 1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)

diff --git a/ha-manager.adoc b/ha-manager.adoc
index 3d6fc4a..666576d 100644
--- a/ha-manager.adoc
+++ b/ha-manager.adoc
@@ -1053,8 +1053,6 @@ Non-HA-managed services are currently not counted.
 Static-Load Scheduler
 ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
-IMPORTANT: The static mode is still a technology preview.
-
 Static usage information from HA services on each node is used to choose a
 recovery node. Usage of non-HA-managed services is currently not considered.
 
-- 
2.39.5



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* Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs] ha crs: remove technology preview note of static-load scheduler
  2024-12-13 14:32 [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs] ha crs: remove technology preview note of static-load scheduler Hannes Duerr
@ 2024-12-13 14:49 ` Fiona Ebner
  2024-12-13 15:00   ` Hannes Dürr
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Fiona Ebner @ 2024-12-13 14:49 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Proxmox VE development discussion, Hannes Duerr

Am 13.12.24 um 15:32 schrieb Hannes Duerr:
> The static load scheduler feature was applied on 17/11/2022 [0] and can
> be considered stable now
> 

The timing alone doesn't tell much. While there don't seem to be any
real issues with the implementation, it was never fully fleshed out and
there are certainly some fundamental improvements that can be made, e.g.
consider non-HA guests, improve calculation when there are thousands of
services.

> [0] https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20221117140018.105004-1-f.ebner@proxmox.com/
> 
> Signed-off-by: Hannes Duerr <h.duerr@proxmox.com>
> ---
>  ha-manager.adoc | 2 --
>  1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
> 
> diff --git a/ha-manager.adoc b/ha-manager.adoc
> index 3d6fc4a..666576d 100644
> --- a/ha-manager.adoc
> +++ b/ha-manager.adoc
> @@ -1053,8 +1053,6 @@ Non-HA-managed services are currently not counted.
>  Static-Load Scheduler
>  ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>  
> -IMPORTANT: The static mode is still a technology preview.
> -
>  Static usage information from HA services on each node is used to choose a
>  recovery node. Usage of non-HA-managed services is currently not considered.
>  



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* Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs] ha crs: remove technology preview note of static-load scheduler
  2024-12-13 14:49 ` Fiona Ebner
@ 2024-12-13 15:00   ` Hannes Dürr
  2024-12-13 15:05     ` Fiona Ebner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Hannes Dürr @ 2024-12-13 15:00 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Fiona Ebner, Proxmox VE development discussion

Do I understand you correctly that the feature is not yet ready to be 
removed from the technology preview?

On 12/13/24 15:49, Fiona Ebner wrote:
> Am 13.12.24 um 15:32 schrieb Hannes Duerr:
>> The static load scheduler feature was applied on 17/11/2022 [0] and can
>> be considered stable now
>>
> The timing alone doesn't tell much. While there don't seem to be any
> real issues with the implementation, it was never fully fleshed out and
> there are certainly some fundamental improvements that can be made, e.g.
> consider non-HA guests, improve calculation when there are thousands of
> services.
>
>> [0] https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20221117140018.105004-1-f.ebner@proxmox.com/
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Hannes Duerr <h.duerr@proxmox.com>
>> ---
>>   ha-manager.adoc | 2 --
>>   1 file changed, 2 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/ha-manager.adoc b/ha-manager.adoc
>> index 3d6fc4a..666576d 100644
>> --- a/ha-manager.adoc
>> +++ b/ha-manager.adoc
>> @@ -1053,8 +1053,6 @@ Non-HA-managed services are currently not counted.
>>   Static-Load Scheduler
>>   ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
>>   
>> -IMPORTANT: The static mode is still a technology preview.
>> -
>>   Static usage information from HA services on each node is used to choose a
>>   recovery node. Usage of non-HA-managed services is currently not considered.
>>   


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* Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs] ha crs: remove technology preview note of static-load scheduler
  2024-12-13 15:00   ` Hannes Dürr
@ 2024-12-13 15:05     ` Fiona Ebner
  2024-12-13 18:41       ` Thomas Lamprecht
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 5+ messages in thread
From: Fiona Ebner @ 2024-12-13 15:05 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Hannes Dürr, Proxmox VE development discussion

Am 13.12.24 um 16:00 schrieb Hannes Dürr:
> Do I understand you correctly that the feature is not yet ready to be
> removed from the technology preview?

Yes, IMHO both of the mentioned improvements should be implemented first.

> On 12/13/24 15:49, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>> Am 13.12.24 um 15:32 schrieb Hannes Duerr:
>>> The static load scheduler feature was applied on 17/11/2022 [0] and can
>>> be considered stable now
>>>
>> The timing alone doesn't tell much. While there don't seem to be any
>> real issues with the implementation, it was never fully fleshed out and
>> there are certainly some fundamental improvements that can be made, e.g.
>> consider non-HA guests, improve calculation when there are thousands of
>> services.


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* Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs] ha crs: remove technology preview note of static-load scheduler
  2024-12-13 15:05     ` Fiona Ebner
@ 2024-12-13 18:41       ` Thomas Lamprecht
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 5+ messages in thread
From: Thomas Lamprecht @ 2024-12-13 18:41 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Proxmox VE development discussion, Fiona Ebner, Hannes Dürr

Am 13.12.24 um 16:05 schrieb Fiona Ebner:
> Am 13.12.24 um 16:00 schrieb Hannes Dürr:
>> Do I understand you correctly that the feature is not yet ready to be
>> removed from the technology preview?
> 
> Yes, IMHO both of the mentioned improvements should be implemented first.

There's an alternative, similar to SDN we can split this up in a set of
features and note what is stable, what not and what is planned but completely
missing.

As while I also think that this really should be improved and extended, the
baseline seems to work out OK and might be already declared so.


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