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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server] fix #5657: allow configuring RNG device as non-root user
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2024 13:16:44 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1729768244.ts0ynz82o4.astroid@yuna.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0bac2005-cd66-4d7e-8e07-d3626c42c233@proxmox.com>

On September 3, 2024 3:58 pm, Filip Schauer wrote:
> On 02/09/2024 14:21, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
>> IIRC this was intentional, since passing in the hardware RNG can starve
>> the host of entropy rather quickly. is this no longer the case, or
>> handled by some other check? if so, please include these details here.
>> if not, then I don't think we want to go with this patch - but maybe we
>> want to tighten some other code paths instead 😉
> 
> 
> Reading from /dev/urandom has never consumed entropy and reading from
> /dev/random no longer poses a concern since the kernel no longer uses a
> blocking entropy pool. [1] The only potential issue might be the
> starvation of the hardware RNG when /dev/hwrng is used. So we might not
> want to allow a non-root user to configure /dev/hwrng, but letting
> non-root users configure the other two options (/dev/urandom and
> /dev/random) seems reasonable.

yes, I was talking about the hardware RNG!

> It might make sense to only allow non-root users to configure
> /dev/urandom and /dev/random as RNG sources.

we could also define some sort of mapping-like thing for the hardware
RNG to allow semi-privileged users to pass it through, after a highly
privileged user set it up and gave them access? but we could wait until
somebody requests that ;)

> 
> [1] https://lwn.net/Articles/808575/
> 
> 
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      reply	other threads:[~2024-10-24 11:17 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-26 11:08 Filip Schauer
2024-09-02 12:21 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-03 13:58   ` Filip Schauer
2024-10-24 11:16     ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]

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