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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH storage/qemu-server/pve-manager] implement ova/ovf import for directory type storages
Date: Thu, 18 Apr 2024 13:17:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1713438961.hndirjx78b.astroid@yuna.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <79a2ed66-9ab6-49e5-928f-70dd2087b6a9@proxmox.com>

On April 18, 2024 12:35 pm, Fiona Ebner wrote:
> Am 18.04.24 um 11:27 schrieb Dominik Csapak:
>> ok after a bit of thinking and discussing off-list
>> the plan to go forward from my side is this:
>> 
>> (please tell if there is something obviously wrong with it or you'd
>> strongly prefer something differently)
>> 
>> extract on demand vs on upload:
>>  i'd go with extract on demand because managing the extraction of the
>> tarball + subdir etc is not really a win in my book, since we have to
>> have most safeguards anyway and we have the same
>> issue of where to store/map it etc. also it's not convenient for users
>> that have already
>> a bunch of ovas and want to store them in a central place, now they'd
>> have to extract
>> them just for us (and importing should be as small a hassle as it can be)
>> 
> 
> The upside is that it would avoid all the extra cleanup handling and be
> more efficient for users that want to import from a single OVA multiple
> times. But you are right, the downside is also very big.
> 
> I'm thinking now, is there no way to expose a file in an OVA/tar without
> actually extracting it? I.e. something like
> 
>> root@pve8a1 ~ # cat B         
>> secret
>> root@pve8a1 ~ # tar cf arch.tar A B dir
>> root@pve8a1 ~ # losetup --offset 1536 --sizelimit 512 --read-only --show -f arch.tar
>> /dev/loop0
>> root@pve8a1 ~ # cat /dev/loop0
>> secret
> 
> but that doesn't seem to work with sizelimit < 512. Not claiming losetup
> is a good mechanism for that, just to illustrate the idea.

there are a few projects that basically offer "tar browsing via FUSE" in
some fashion, not sure about their overhead and/or compat with various
tar variants and features though..


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Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-16 13:18 Dominik Csapak
2024-04-16 13:18 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 1/9] copy OVF.pm from qemu-server Dominik Csapak
2024-04-16 15:02   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-04-17  9:19     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-17  9:26       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-04-16 13:18 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 2/9] plugin: dir: implement import content type Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 10:07   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-17 10:07     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-17 13:13     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 12:46   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-16 13:18 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 3/9] plugin: dir: handle ova files for import Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 10:52   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-17 13:07     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 13:39       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-18  7:22       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-18  7:25         ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-18  8:55         ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-17 12:45   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-17 13:10     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 13:52       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-17 14:07         ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  6:46           ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-16 13:18 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 4/9] ovf: implement parsing the ostype Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 11:32   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-17 13:14     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  7:31       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-16 13:18 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 5/9] ovf: implement parsing out firmware type Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 11:43   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-16 13:18 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 6/9] ovf: implement rudimentary boot order Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 11:54   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-17 13:15     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 7/9] ovf: implement parsing nics Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 12:09   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-17 13:16     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  8:22   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 8/9] api: allow ova upload/download Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  8:05   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage 9/9] plugin: enable import for nfs/btfs/cifs/cephfs Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  8:43   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 1/3] api: delete unused OVF.pm Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  8:52   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-18  8:57     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  9:03       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 2/3] use OVF from Storage Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  9:07   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 3/3] api: create: implement extracting disks when needed for import-from Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  9:41   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-18  9:48     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  9:55       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-18  9:58         ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18 10:01           ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 1/4] ui: fix special 'import' icon for non-esxi storages Dominik Csapak
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 2/4] ui: guest import: add ova-needs-extracting warning text Dominik Csapak
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 3/4] ui: enable import content type for relevant storages Dominik Csapak
2024-04-16 13:19 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH manager 4/4] ui: enable upload/download buttons for 'import' type storages Dominik Csapak
2024-04-17 12:37   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-18 11:20   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-18 11:23     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18 11:26       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-17 13:11 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH storage/qemu-server/pve-manager] implement ova/ovf import for directory " Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-17 13:19   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18  6:40     ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-18  9:27 ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18 10:35   ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-18 11:10     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-04-18 11:13       ` Fiona Ebner
2024-04-18 11:17     ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]

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