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From: Aaron Lauterer <a.lauterer@proxmox.com>
To: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH docs] system-requirements: mention that SSDs with PLP should be used
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2024 14:29:55 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <106c0a91-ffeb-4d5c-b305-025a96ef2450@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <330acee6-96d4-4868-bd35-893f14ac3e7b@proxmox.com>

Should we stick with v1 or v2? V1 is definitely more strongly worded 
than v2.

v1:
+**·SSDs·with·Power-Loss-Protection·(PLP)·are·recommended·for·good·performance.
+··Using·consumer·SSDs·is·discouraged.

vs v2:

+**·Enterprise·grade·SSDs·are·recommended·for·good·performance.·Check·for·power
+··loss·protection·(PLP)·to·avoid·using·consumer-grade·SSDs,·which·are·not
+··recommended.

On  2024-03-21  09:06, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
> (missed reply-all, so resending)
> 
> On 20/03/2024 10:30, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>> Am 20.03.24 um 09:56 schrieb Aaron Lauterer:
>>> Signed-off-by: Aaron Lauterer <a.lauterer@proxmox.com>
>>> ---
>>>   pve-system-requirements.adoc | 2 ++
>>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/pve-system-requirements.adoc b/pve-system-requirements.adoc
>>> index bc3689d..4db5358 100644
>>> --- a/pve-system-requirements.adoc
>>> +++ b/pve-system-requirements.adoc
>>> @@ -49,6 +49,8 @@ Recommended System Requirements
>>>     (BBU) or non-RAID for ZFS and Ceph. Neither ZFS nor Ceph are compatible with a
>>>     hardware RAID controller.
>>>   ** Shared and distributed storage is possible.
>>> +** SSDs with Power-Loss-Protection (PLP) are recommended for good performance.
>>> +  Using consumer SSDs is discouraged.
>>>   
>>
>> Having PLP might correlate with having good performance, but it's not
>> the reason for good performance and good performance is not the reason
>> you want PLP.
> 
> Disagree, PLP is the biggest reason for good performance compared to
> consumer SSDs and it's often the main reason people buy them, as one
> can make consumer SSDs safe without PLP, it just gets damn slow.




  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-28 13:30 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-20  8:56 Aaron Lauterer
2024-03-20  9:30 ` Fiona Ebner
2024-03-20  9:49   ` Aaron Lauterer
2024-03-20 10:01     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-03-20 10:02     ` Fiona Ebner
2024-03-20 14:48       ` Maximiliano Sandoval
2024-03-21  8:06   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-03-28 13:29     ` Aaron Lauterer [this message]
2024-03-21 10:43 ` Aaron Lauterer
2024-03-29 13:11 ` [pve-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht

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