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From: Josef Per Johansson <josef@oderland.se>
To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] hetzner bug with pve-firewall
Date: Tue, 14 Sep 2021 09:21:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1015626530.2812024.1631604108478@localhost> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0ef5cbe7c222199e7032c28c50a37fe12b71154b.camel@odiso.com>

Hi,

I can check it out for sure, not touching ebtables would be nice.

Sent from Nine
________________________________
From: alexandre derumier <aderumier@odiso.com>
Sent: Tuesday, 14 September 2021 02:28
To: Proxmox VE development discussion
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] hetzner bug with pve-firewall


Hi, I just send another patch,

without ebtables, but with disabling unicast_flood on vm bridge ports. 

maybe can you try it ?


Le dimanche 12 septembre 2021 à 12:37 +0200, Josef Per Johansson a
écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> Yeah sure! It seems a bit better than my hack!
> 
> Yeah I meant the mac-address-table, my bad.
> 
> Sent from Nine
> ________________________________
> From: alexandre derumier <aderumier@odiso.com>
> Sent: Friday, 10 September 2021 18:19
> To: Proxmox VE development discussion
> Subject: Re: [pve-devel] hetzner bug with pve-firewall
> 
> 
> Hi,
> 
> Le vendredi 10 septembre 2021 à 12:53 +0200, Josef Johansson a
> écrit :
> > 
> > 
> > I have a patch for the source code regarding only allowing the VMs
> > MAC
> > in ebtables for incoming traffic also.
> 
> I just send a patch too for incoming traffic, maybe could you try it
> ?
> 
> 
> 
> > > Traffic is only broadcasted to MAC B if the ARP-table in the
> > > switch
> > > times out.
> > > 
> > > Which makes this problem a hell to diagnose :-)
> 
> to be exact, if the mac-address-table timeout in the switch. (switch
> don't have arp, until it's a router)
> That's why in general, switch need to be configured with mac-address-
> table aging-time (2h for exemple)  > than arp timeout on servers.
> 
> Like this, if no traffic occur on servers, and arp is timeout out,
> server is sending a new arp request, and the switch see the arp reply
> with the mac address,
> (and no expiration in mac-address-table).
> 
> Looking at hetzner problem, the tcpdump send by users show really
> stranges mac address vendor. (sound like forged flood).
> Anyway, they should fix this, with static mac in their switch, as
> they
> known allowed mac by server anyway.
> (Until they have poor cheap switch without mac filtering ....)
> I wonder if they are not only filtering/detecting the wrong mac on
> their gateway. (as here, we send tcp reset to an external ip, going
> through the gateway)
> 
> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2021-09-14  7:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 11+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2021-09-10 10:31 alexandre derumier
2021-09-10 10:43 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2021-09-13 17:43   ` alexandre derumier
2021-09-10 10:53 ` Josef Johansson
2021-09-10 12:34   ` Josef Johansson
2021-09-10 16:18   ` alexandre derumier
2021-09-12 10:37     ` Josef Per Johansson
2021-09-14  0:27       ` alexandre derumier
2021-09-14  7:21         ` Josef Per Johansson [this message]
2021-10-01 15:19           ` Josef Johansson
2021-10-12 12:41             ` Josef Johansson

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