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From: Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com>
To: Kefu Chai <k.chai@proxmox.com>, pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [RFC] Re-enable alternative memory allocator (tcmalloc) for pve-qemu?
Date: Thu, 26 Mar 2026 07:16:29 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <03fc2a07-34c8-4029-bbed-f1c764d4562e@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DHCDIFA0P8QP.2CTY4G4EEGKQ0@proxmox.com>


> The mechanism is well-understood: librbd creates many small temporary
> objects per I/O operation, and glibc's allocator is slow under that
> fragmentation pattern.

Such things are usually easy to fix using by using a custom pool 
allocator, freeing
all allocated objects at once. But I don't know the Ceph code, so I am 
not sure if it is
possible to apply such pattern to the Ceph code ...

> But both allocators provide explicit "release everything now" APIs:
>
> - gperftools: MallocExtension::instance()->ReleaseFreeMemory()
>    (calls ReleaseToSystem(LONG_MAX) internally)
> - jemalloc: mallctl("arena.<i>.purge", ...)

The problem with that is that it can halt/delay the whole application 
while freeing memory?
We need to make sure that there is no noticeable delay.

> ## Questions for the team
>
> 1. Does anyone remember why tcmalloc was removed after only 8 days
>     in 2015 (2.3-4)? The changelog just says "remove tcmalloc" with
>     no explanation.
Not really, sorry.
> 2. Fiona: given the backup memory reclamation work in 5f9cb29, would
>     you see a problem with replacing malloc_trim with the
>     allocator-specific release API in the backup completion path?
>
> 3. Has the proxmox-backup-qemu library's allocation pattern changed
>     since 2020 in ways that might affect this? (e.g., different buffer
>     management, Rust allocator changes)

I am not aware of such changes.






  parent reply	other threads:[~2026-03-26  6:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-03-26  2:54 Kefu Chai
2026-03-26  6:09 ` DERUMIER, Alexandre
2026-03-26  6:16 ` Dietmar Maurer [this message]
2026-03-26  7:48   ` Kefu Chai

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