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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>,
	Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com>,
	pmg-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [pmg-devel] [PATCH pmg-api/gui] add quarantine self service button
Date: Wed, 18 Nov 2020 09:01:11 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <8f45432a-305c-31a6-954b-f45dd6effff3@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <31d52e9d-fe70-acdb-b24c-3554df4c3b13@proxmox.com>

On 18.11.20 08:56, Dominik Csapak wrote:
> On 11/18/20 8:44 AM, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
>> On 17.11.20 17:38, Dietmar Maurer wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11/17/2020 5:27 PM Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>   IMHO this is too dangerous.
>>>>
>>>> This needs at least some kind of captcha ...
>>>
>>> i.e. This would allow direct DOS attacks to the internal mail server.
>>>
>>
>> I found this captcha solution, relatively sophisticated but not a PITA for the
>> (human) user, Friendly Captcha[0] used by some official European Union websites.
>>
>> It uses Proof of Work[2] (i.e. crypto puzzel ones device needs to solve by
>> computation), the specific library used is "Friendly PoW"[1].
>>
>> If we go for a captcha I'd like something like this (could be rebuild), as
>> it avoids the issues with picture texts (easily solved by computers, bad
>> accessibility for humans) and similar captchas.
>>
>>
>> [0]: https://github.com/friendlycaptcha/friendly-challenge
>> [1]: https://github.com/friendlycaptcha/friendly-pow
>> [2]: https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proof_of_Work
>>
> 
> i'd rather go with a rate limited approach
> e.g. a file with a
> mail -> last click time
> mapping
> and refuse if the last click time is not older than 5min ?
> and only 1 per 5 seconds overall?

or an hour or day? what do you need the mail such often??
The ticket doesn't even expires that fast..

> 
> a captcha would be much harder to implement (more dependencies,
> backend as well as dependent frontend code and in this example
> it seems the code is only available for js/ts), though
> if we find a simple solution, i am not against it
> 

but also more efficient, as the client actually needs to put in
work. JS is no problem, the backend would be nice in rust or
so - maybe in the future when someone gets around some day...





  reply	other threads:[~2020-11-18  8:01 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 17+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-11-17 14:57 Dominik Csapak
2020-11-17 14:57 ` [pmg-devel] [PATCH pmg-api v2 1/3] refactor domain_regex to Utils Dominik Csapak
2020-11-17 14:57 ` [pmg-devel] [PATCH pmg-api v2 2/3] add 'quarantinelink' to spamquar config Dominik Csapak
2020-11-17 14:57 ` [pmg-devel] [PATCH pmg-api v2 3/3] api2/quarantine: add global sendlink api call Dominik Csapak
2020-11-17 14:57 ` [pmg-devel] [PATCH pmg-gui v2 1/1] add 'Request Quarantine Link' Button to LoginView Dominik Csapak
2020-11-17 15:29 ` [pmg-devel] [PATCH pmg-api/gui] add quarantine self service button Thomas Lamprecht
2020-11-17 15:53   ` Dominik Csapak
2020-11-17 16:11     ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-11-17 16:00 ` Stoiko Ivanov
2020-11-17 16:27 ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-11-17 16:38   ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-11-18  7:44     ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-11-18  7:56       ` Dominik Csapak
2020-11-18  8:01         ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2020-11-18  8:13           ` Dominik Csapak
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2020-11-17  8:05 Dominik Csapak
2020-11-17 13:16 ` Stoiko Ivanov

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