From: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>
To: Stefan Hanreich <s.hanreich@proxmox.com>,
Proxmox Datacenter Manager development discussion
<pdm-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 01/16] server: add locked sdn client helpers
Date: Wed, 27 Aug 2025 15:29:07 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <ecaa63eb-d78f-44ef-b65a-98530318f465@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0035abf7-5817-4965-958f-0f3868b0c971@proxmox.com>
On 8/27/25 3:22 PM, Stefan Hanreich wrote:
> On 8/27/25 3:10 PM, Dominik Csapak wrote:
>> [snip]
>>>>> +
>>>>> + if errors {
>>>>> + let mut rollback_futures = FuturesUnordered::new();
>>>>> +
>>>>> + for (client, ctx) in self.clients {
>>>>> + let ctx = Arc::new(ctx);
>>>>> + let err_ctx = ctx.clone();
>>>>> +
>>>>> + rollback_futures.push(
>>>>> + client
>>>>> + .rollback_and_release()
>>>>> + .map_ok(|_| ctx)
>>>>> + .map_err(|err| (err, err_ctx)),
>>>>> + );
>>>>> + }
>>>>> +
>>>>> + while let Some(result) = rollback_futures.next().await {
>>>>> + match result {
>>>>> + Ok(ctx) => {
>>>>> + proxmox_log::info!(
>>>>> + "successfully rolled back configuration
>>>>> for remote {}",
>>>>> + ctx.remote_id()
>>>>> + )
>>>>> + }
>>>>> + Err((_, ctx)) => {
>>>>> + proxmox_log::error!(
>>>>> + "could not rollback configuration for
>>>>> remote {}",
>>>>> + ctx.remote_id()
>>>>> + )
>>>>> + }
>>>>> + }
>>>>> + }
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> if we could not rollback_and_release, should we maybe call release for
>>>> those ? The admin has to cleanup anyway, but is it possible for one to
>>>> release such a lock (via the gui?). Not very sure about the lock
>>>> semantics here.
>>>
>>> I thought about it, but I think it is better to leave the remote locked
>>> on failure since admins then get an error on the respective PVE remote
>>> if they want to change some settings there.
>>>
>>> They can then either explicitly rollback the changes manually or fix the
>>> issues and apply the configuration anyway.
>>>
>>> The most likely scenario for why this would fail is networking issues
>>> imo. I think if the rollback_and_release call fails, there is a decent
>>> chance that a subsequent release call will fail as well. This would
>>> introduce a third level of requests + error handling, which I'm not sure
>>> is worth the potential gain.
>>>
>>> It is also analogous to e.g. failures when snapshotting a VM where the
>>> lock needs to be forcibly released iirc.
>>>
>>> I think the error message could be improved by indicating that the
>>> configuration is left untouched and admins need to rollback / release
>>> manually and potentially even a indicator / pointer on how to do it.
>>>
>>>
>>>> also using FuturesUnordered here can make sense here, but it's not
>>>> really parallel, since it only does work during await.
>>>>
>>>> does it make a big difference (for many remotes) instead of just
>>>> awaiting the futures directly? or joining them ?
>>>>
>>>> i.e. having a large number of remotes unordered in the logs does not
>>>> make it easier to read.
>>>>
>>>> I'd either expect the remotes to be sorted, or the failed remotes to be
>>>> separated from the successful ones (e.g. only logging the error ones
>>>> separately and only a number for the succesful ones?)
>>>
>>> I think I had some issues with just using a Vec of futures + join_all
>>> (ownership + borrowing with clients / ctx) and using FuturesUnordered
>>> resolved the issue. I'll check again more thoroughly on the root cause
>>> and report back. I wanted to improve how the requests are made in the
>>> client anyway, but didn't yet get around to it. We might also just want
>>> to spawn blocking tasks in tokio instead.
>>>
>>> Using FuturesOrdered would be fine if collecting into a Vec doesn't
>>> work, but then we should maybe sort the clients in the constructor
>>> (alphabetically by remote name?) to ensure deterministic/consistent
>>> ordering any time any function in this collection is called.
>>>
>>> Anyway, I'll look into improving this in the next version (most likely
>>> by spawning blocking tasks in tokio itself)!
>>>
>>>
>> i don't think the tasks have to be blocking (since the code is async
>> anyway?)
>
> yeah, you're right.
>
>> but you could do something similar to lukas with e.g.
>> joinset + a semaphore to make (limited) parallel requests
>>
>> if we have a clearer picture of the things we want/need
>> from such a thing in the future, we could abstract that
>
> I'll talk to Lukas and check out his implementation. We talked shortly
> about it last week, but I only took a cursory glance of his implementation.
>
> We might be able to convert this to wrap Lukas' implementation at some
> point in the future. Potentially we could do this in a follow-up as well
> to avoid doing the same work twice / duplicate the logic, since imo for
> starting out the current implementation is good enough - what do you think?
>
sounds good to me. We just should refactor it rather sooner than later,
otherwise this will very likely be forgotten ;)
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Thread overview: 57+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-08-27 11:33 [pdm-devel] [PATCH network/proxmox{, -backup, -api-types, -datacenter-manager} 00/32] Add initial SDN / EVPN integration Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox 1/2] schema: use i64 for minimum / maximum / default integer values Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox 2/2] pbs-api-types: fix values for integer schemas Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 1/1] api: change integer schema parameters to i64 Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH pve-network 1/6] sdn: api: return null for rollback / lock endpoints Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-28 7:56 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-28 9:22 ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-28 19:46 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH pve-network 2/6] controllers: fix maximum value for ASN Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH pve-network 3/6] api: add state standard option Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH pve-network 4/6] api: controllers: update schema of endpoints Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH pve-network 5/6] api: vnets: " Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH pve-network 6/6] api: zones: " Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-api-types 1/7] add QemuMigratePreconditionsNotAllowedNodesBlockingHaResources struct Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:58 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-api-types 2/7] sdn: add list/create zone endpoints Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-api-types 3/7] sdn: add list/create vnet endpoints Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-api-types 4/7] sdn: add list/create controller endpoints Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-api-types 5/7] sdn: add sdn configuration locking endpoints Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-api-types 6/7] tasks: add helper for querying successfully finished tasks Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-api-types 7/7] sdn: add helpers for pending values Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 01/16] server: add locked sdn client helpers Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 12:27 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 13:04 ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 13:10 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 13:22 ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 13:29 ` Dominik Csapak [this message]
2025-08-27 13:34 ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 02/16] ui: tasks: add descriptions for SDN tasks Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 03/16] api: sdn: add list_zones endpoint Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 04/16] api: sdn: add create_zone endpoint Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 13:44 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 05/16] api: sdn: add list_vnets endpoint Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 13:45 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-28 9:01 ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 06/16] api: sdn: add create_vnet endpoint Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 07/16] api: sdn: add list_controllers endpoint Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 08/16] ui: sdn: add EvpnRouteTarget type Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 09/16] ui: sdn: add vnet icon Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 14:06 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-28 9:04 ` Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-28 9:10 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:33 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 10/16] ui: sdn: add remote tree component Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 14:48 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:34 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 11/16] ui: add view for showing ip vrfs Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-28 7:15 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:34 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 12/16] ui: sdn: add AddVnetWindow component Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-28 7:49 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:34 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 13/16] ui: sdn: add AddZoneWindow component Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-28 7:50 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:34 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 14/16] ui: sdn: add EvpnPanel Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-28 7:54 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:34 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 15/16] ui: sdn: add EvpnPanel to main menu Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-27 14:07 ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-27 11:34 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 16/16] pve: sdn: add descriptions for sdn tasks Stefan Hanreich
2025-08-28 8:06 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH network/proxmox{, -backup, -api-types, -datacenter-manager} 00/32] Add initial SDN / EVPN integration Dominik Csapak
2025-08-29 14:54 ` [pdm-devel] superseded: " Stefan Hanreich
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