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From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox Datacenter Manager development discussion
	<pdm-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	Shannon Sterz <s.sterz@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager/proxmox/yew-comp v3 00/10] add support for checking acl permissions in (yew) front-ends
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 18:06:48 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <a18c420b-d523-400d-909b-f223b6b20945@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DE7PRA0KHNYN.32IYVQTQ2Q5YD@proxmox.com>

Am 13.11.25 um 17:39 schrieb Shannon Sterz:
> On Thu Nov 13, 2025 at 5:18 PM CET, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
>> Am 13.11.25 um 15:26 schrieb Shannon Sterz:
>>> i suppose i could also try to extract the roles with `AclTree::roles`,
>>> which extracts the roles via `AclTreeNode::extract_roles` which is
>>> already somewhat opinionated about how groups should work here. not sure
>>> what is ideal here.
>>
>> That I did not looked closely enough into to answer for sure.
> 
> thanks for your quick reply, i looked into this some more after i send
> this mail and i have a version of this series here now that uses
> `AclTreeNode::extract_roles` to extract the roles for user in general.
> the upshot of this approach is that we already use the acl tree's
> implementation here instead of manually extracting the roles. so once we
> add better support for groups in the acl tree, we'll pick them up here
> for free.
> 
> context: the acl tree has somewhat half-baked support for groups already
> and supports extracting them correctly for a given user. the part that
> is missing there is the look up of what groups a user belongs too. so
> relying on that seems somewhat safe to me as the pre-existing codepaths
> have been around for a while now.
> 
> it looks somewhat like this:
> 
>         if all_for_authid {
>             if let Some(auth_id) = auth_id_filter {
>                for (role, propagate) in node.extract_roles(auth_id, true) {
>                     to_return.push(AclListItem {
>                         path: path_str.to_owned(),
>                         propagate,
>                         // do not disclose what groups exist and by
>                         // making them always look like user permissions
>                         ugid_type: AclUgidType::User,
>                         ugid: auth_id.to_string(),
>                         roleid: role.to_string(),
>                     })
>                 }
>             }
> 
> what do you think? should we go with this approach instead?

Again, only glanced at your series and this hunk, so do take this with a grain
of salt (and a potential for Fabian's rejection ;), but it does look OK to me,
and would indeed be a bit more future proof w.r.t. hedging against leaking
any groups themselves.


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  reply	other threads:[~2025-11-13 17:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 22+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-11-06 14:38 Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox v3 1/5] access-control: add acl feature to only expose types and the AclTree Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox v3 2/5] access-control: use format strings where possible Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox v3 3/5] access-control: move functions querying privileges to the AclTree Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox v3 4/5] access-control: derive Debug and PartialEq on AclTree and AclTreeNode Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox v3 5/5] access-control: allow reading all acls of the current authid Shannon Sterz
2025-11-13 10:23   ` Lukas Wagner
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH yew-comp v3 1/2] acl_context: add AclContext and AclContextProvider Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH yew-comp v3 2/2] http_helpers: reload LocalAclTree when logging in or refreshing a ticket Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager v3 1/3] server/api-types: move AccessControlConfig to shared api types Shannon Sterz
2025-11-13 10:15   ` Lukas Wagner
2025-11-13 10:23     ` Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager v3 2/3] ui: add an AclContext via the AclContextProvider to the main app ui Shannon Sterz
2025-11-06 14:38 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager v3 3/3] ui: main menu: use the AclContext to hide the Notes if appropriate Shannon Sterz
2025-11-13 10:21 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager/proxmox/yew-comp v3 00/10] add support for checking acl permissions in (yew) front-ends Lukas Wagner
2025-11-13 10:26   ` Shannon Sterz
2025-11-13 13:58 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-11-13 14:27   ` Shannon Sterz
2025-11-13 16:18     ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-11-13 16:39       ` Shannon Sterz
2025-11-13 17:06         ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2025-11-14 14:44 ` [pdm-devel] Superseded: " Shannon Sterz

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