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From: "Lukas Wagner" <l.wagner@proxmox.com>
To: "Hannes Laimer" <h.laimer@proxmox.com>,
	"Lukas Wagner" <l.wagner@proxmox.com>,
	"Proxmox Datacenter Manager development discussion"
	<pdm-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pdm-devel] [RFC proxmox{, -datacenter-manager, -yew-comp} 0/8] make security groups expandable in firewall rules list
Date: Thu, 11 Dec 2025 10:20:39 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DEV9YQWB5T9T.3JMQD1317U8H4@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <b85c23f9-38e3-4b11-ab20-2b03926e259c@proxmox.com>

On Tue Dec 9, 2025 at 5:45 PM CET, Hannes Laimer wrote:
> Thanks for the feedback! some comments inline
>
> On 12/9/25 16:23, Lukas Wagner wrote:
>> On Fri Dec 5, 2025 at 4:25 PM CET, Hannes Laimer wrote:
>>> This contains some rough edges, mostly UI wise, but I'd like to get some
>>> feedback on if we like this approach. Currently we don't really
>>> know what a security group actually contains, in the list currently it's
>>> a bit of a black box what a group actually does. Finding out what rules it
>>> contains is a little cumbersome. This should make that easier. It seemed
>>> like a good place too, I considerd an extra tab maybe. But especially
>>> for read-only I think this is better.
>> 
>> Yeah, I think approach could work. But I'd also be interested what other
>> think.
>> 
>> If we ever change the view so that rules are editable, I guess we could
>> keep it as is, but should probably keep the rules from the group
>> read-only in their expanded form. To edit the actual rules of the group,
>> some other form of UI would be good, maybe like you suggested, in a
>> separate tab on the 'Datacenter'/'Remote' level.
>
> Since rules in groups are just rules so technically editing isn't a
> problem, but yes, might be a little confusing cause it would edit the
> rule for all instances where the group is used...
>
> maybe some "reduced editing" could also make sense, maybe just order and
> on/off, but that's a not relevant for this
>

Yeah, I think the main issue with allowing edits would be indeed the
confusion that this would affect other guests/hosts as well, that could
be quite a surprise.


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      reply	other threads:[~2025-12-11  9:20 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-12-05 15:25 Hannes Laimer
2025-12-05 15:25 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox 1/4] pve-api-types: rename ListFirewallRules to FirewallRule Hannes Laimer
2025-12-05 15:25 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox 2/4] pve-api-types: update pve-api.json Hannes Laimer
2025-12-05 15:25 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox 3/4] pve-api-types: add security group GET endpoints Hannes Laimer
2025-12-05 15:25 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox 4/4] pve-api-types: regenerate Hannes Laimer
2025-12-05 15:25 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 1/2] pdm: rename ListFirewallRules to FirewallRule Hannes Laimer
2025-12-05 15:25 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-datacenter-manager 2/2] api: firewall: add pve firewall security group GET endpoints Hannes Laimer
2025-12-05 15:25 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-yew-comp 1/2] firewall: rules: rename ListFirewallRules to FirewallRule Hannes Laimer
2025-12-05 15:25 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH proxmox-yew-comp 2/2] firewall: rules: make security group entries expandable Hannes Laimer
2025-12-09 15:23 ` [pdm-devel] [RFC proxmox{, -datacenter-manager, -yew-comp} 0/8] make security groups expandable in firewall rules list Lukas Wagner
2025-12-09 16:45   ` Hannes Laimer
2025-12-11  9:20     ` Lukas Wagner [this message]

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