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From: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>
To: Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox Datacenter Manager development discussion
	<pdm-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 00/21] improve remote wizard
Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2025 14:53:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <0b765c8c-15ab-4790-a896-a458b2ffd1db@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <DC5K8645JNBT.ELMW9NEYJ393@proxmox.com>



On 8/18/25 14:41, Lukas Wagner wrote:
> On Fri May 16, 2025 at 3:35 PM CEST, Dominik Csapak wrote:
>> # Summary
>>
>> This series improves the remote wizard in various points:
>> * improved wording and texts
>> * moved seperate buttons on pages into the next button
>> * probing of entered nodes
>> * confirmation dialog for missing fingerprints
>> * better realm selector
>>
>> # Notes
>>
>> I'm not super sure about the API call structure. I think two seperate
>> API calls (one for tls probing, one for scanning) might make more sense.
>> If that's wanted, I'll do so in a v2 of the series.
>>
>> ## Probing on the server side
>>
>> I tried to determine if we need a fingerprint for nodes inside the
>> API call, by probing each node. Since we currently only get the
>> nodenames and not FQDNs in the nodelist, this will currently not
>> result in a valid connection in most cases and return the fingerprint.
>>
>> My plan would be to include FQDNs of the nodes on the PVE side API call,
>> so we can return here a list of nodename, ip and FQDNs, which the user
>> then can select from. (which of those I'd probe on first check is yet
>> to be determined)
>>
>> ## Fingerprint confirmation dialogs
>>
>> Not sure if we want to be able to let the user confirm the fingerprint
>> so easily. On one hand it's very convenient, but maybe leads to users
>> simply clicking yes without understanding what's happening.
>>
>> If it's deemed too dangerous, I'd rework the series without this.
>>
>> # Future work
>>
>> The next step for the wizard is to have some kind of quick copy&paste
>> info. After discussing off-list with Fabian a bit, I think it would be
>> best for this to contain the hostname (FQDN?) + fingerprint (if just a
>> self-signed certificate) + a list of nodes with their respective
>> nodename + FQDNs (maybe requires api change on PVE side to generate
>> this). The user would then still have to do most of the steps currently
>> necessary in the wizard, except the manual copy & pasting of
>> fingerprints and maybe entering of FQDNs.
>>
>>
> 
> Seems like these do not apply cleanly any more, could you rebase and
> send a v2? Thanks!
> 

hi, yep sure, i'm currently working on rebasing all my open series


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Thread overview: 33+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-05-16 13:35 Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 01/21] server/ui: pve: change 'realm list' api call to GET Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 02/21] api types: RemoteType: put default port info to the type Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 03/21] server: connection: add probe_tls_connection helper Dominik Csapak
2025-08-19 11:54   ` Lukas Wagner
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 04/21] server/ui: pve api: extend 'scan' so it can probe the tls connection Dominik Csapak
2025-08-19 11:54   ` Lukas Wagner
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 05/21] pdm-client: add scan_remote and probe_tls methods Dominik Csapak
2025-08-19 11:55   ` Lukas Wagner
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 06/21] ui: remotes: node url list: add placeholder and clear trigger Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 07/21] ui: rmeotes: node url list: make column header clearer Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 08/21] ui: remotes: node url list: handle changing default Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:35 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 09/21] ui: pve wizard: rename 'realm' variable to 'info' Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 10/21] ui: pve wizard: summary: add default text for fingerprint Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 11/21] ui: pve wizard: nodes: improve info text Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 12/21] ui: pve wizard: nodes: probe hosts to verify fingerprint settings Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 13/21] ui: pve wizard: info: use pdm_client for scanning Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 14/21] ui: pve wizard: info: detect hostname and fingerprint Dominik Csapak
2025-08-19 11:55   ` Lukas Wagner
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 15/21] ui: pve wizard: info: remove manual scan button Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 16/21] ui: widget: add pve realm selector Dominik Csapak
2025-08-19 11:55   ` Lukas Wagner
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 17/21] ui: pve wizard: info: use " Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 18/21] ui: pve wizard: connect: factor out normalize_hostname Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 19/21] ui: pve wizard: connect: move connection logic to next button Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 20/21] ui: pve wizard: connect: use scan api endpoint instead of realms Dominik Csapak
2025-05-16 13:36 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 21/21] ui: pve wizard: connect: add certificate confirmation dialog Dominik Csapak
2025-08-18 12:41 ` [pdm-devel] [PATCH datacenter-manager 00/21] improve remote wizard Lukas Wagner
2025-08-18 12:53   ` Dominik Csapak [this message]
2025-08-18 13:48 ` [pdm-devel] superseded: " Dominik Csapak
2025-08-19 12:10 ` [pdm-devel] " Lukas Wagner
2025-08-19 12:52   ` Dominik Csapak
2025-08-19 13:56     ` Lukas Wagner

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