From: Maximiliano Sandoval <m.sandoval@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 45/45] docs: Add section describing how to setup s3 backed datastore
Date: Fri, 18 Jul 2025 15:14:03 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <s8o8qklzjen.fsf@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250715125332.954494-55-c.ebner@proxmox.com>
Documentation looks good to me.
Some small comments bellow.
Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com> writes:
> Describe required basic S3 client setup and possible configuration
> options as well as the actual setup of a datastore using the client and
> a bucket as backend.
>
> Signed-off-by: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
> ---
> changes since version 7:
> - new in this version
>
> docs/storage.rst | 68 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> 1 file changed, 68 insertions(+)
>
> diff --git a/docs/storage.rst b/docs/storage.rst
> index 4a8d8255e..0bac85fc3 100644
> --- a/docs/storage.rst
> +++ b/docs/storage.rst
> @@ -233,6 +233,74 @@ datastore is not mounted when they are scheduled. Sync jobs start, but fail
> with an error saying the datastore was not mounted. The reason is that syncs
> not happening as scheduled should at least be noticeable.
>
> +Datastores with S3 Backend (experimental)
I think we generally use the term "technology preview" in these cases.
> +^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
> +
> +Proxmox Backup Server supports S3 compatible object stores as storage backend for datastores. For
> +this, an S3 client needs to be set-up under "Configuration" > "S3 Clients".
> +
> +In the client configuration, provide the REST API endpoint for the object store. The endpoint
> +is provider dependent and allows for the bucket and region templating. For example, configuring
> +the endpoint as e.g. ``{{bucket}}.s3.{{region}}.amazonaws.com`` will be expanded to
> +``my-pbs-bucket.s3.eu-central-1.amazonaws.com`` with a configured bucket of name ``my-pbs-bucket``
> +located in region ``eu-central-1``.
> +
> +The bucket name is part of the datastore backend configuration rather than the client configuration,
> +as the same client might be reused for multiple bucket. Objects placed in the bucket are prefixed by
> +the datastore name, therefore it is possible to create multiple datastores using the same bucket.
> +
> +.. note:: Proxmox Backup Server does not handle bucket creation and access control. The bucket used
> + to store the datastore's objects as well as the access key have to be setup beforehand in your S3
> + provider interface. The Proxmox Backup Server acts as client and requires permissions to get, put
> + list and delete objects in the bucket.
> +
> +Most providers allow to access buckets either using a vhost style addressing, the bucket name being
> +part of the endpoint address, or via path style addressing, the bucket name being the prefix to
> +the path components of requests. Proxmox Backup Server supports both styles, favoring the vhost
> +style urls over the path style. To use path style addresses, set the corresponding configuration
> +flag.
> +
> +Proxmox Backup Server does not support plain text communication with the S3 API, all communication
> +is excrypted using HTTPS in transit. Therefore, for self-hostsd S3 object stores using a self-signed
s/excrypted/encrypted and s/hostsd/hosted.
> +certificate, the matching fingerprint has to be provided to the client configuration. Otherwise the
> +client refuses connections to the S3 object store.
> +
> +The following example shows the setup of a new s3 client configuration:
> +
> +.. code-block:: console
> +
> + # proxmox-backup-manager s3 client create my-s3-client --secrets-id my-s3-client --access-key 'my-access-key' --secret-key 'my-secret-key' --endpoint '{{bucket}}.s3.{{region}}.amazonaws.com' --region eu-central-1
> +
> +To list your s3 client configuration, run:
> +
> +.. code-block:: console
> +
> + # proxmox-backup-manager s3 client list
> +
> +A new datastore with S3 backend can be created using one of the configures S3 clients. Although
> +storing all contents on the S3 object store, the datastore requires nevertheless a local cache store,
> +used to increase performance and reduce the number of requests to the backend. For this, a local
> +filesystem path has to be provided during datastore creation, just like for regular datastore setup.
> +A minimum size of a few GiB of storage is recommended, given that cache datastore contents include
> +also data chunks.
> +
> +To setup a new datastore called ``my-s3-store`` placed in a bucket called ``pbs-s3-bucket``, run:
> +
> +.. code-block:: console
> +
> + # proxmox-backup-manager datastore create my-s3-store /mnt/datastore/my-s3-store-cache --backend type=s3,client=my-s3-client,bucket=pbs-s3-bucket
> +
> +A datastore cannot be shared between multiple instances, only one instance can operate on the
A Backup Server instance? I would personally specify this here instead
of in the next line.
> +datastore at a time. However, datastore contents used on a Proxmox Backup Server instance which is
> +no longer available can be reused on a fresh installation. To recreate the datastore, you must pass
> +the ``reuse-datastore`` and ``overwrite-in-use`` flags. Since the datastore name is used as prefix,
> +the same datastore name must be used.
> +
> +.. code-block:: console
> +
> + # proxmox-backup-manager datastore create my-s3-store /mnt/datastore/my-new-s3-store-cache --backend type=s3,client=my-s3-client,bucket=pbs-s3-bucket --reuse-datastore true --overwrite-in-use true
> +
> +
> Managing Datastores
> ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Reviewed-by: Maximiliano Sandoval <m.sandoval@proxmox.com>
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2025-07-15 12:52 [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox{, -backup} v8 00/54] fix #2943: S3 storage backend for datastores Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 1/9] s3 client: add crate for AWS s3 compatible object store client Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 21:13 ` [pbs-devel] partially-applied-series: " Thomas Lamprecht
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 2/9] s3 client: implement AWS signature v4 request authentication Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 3/9] s3 client: add dedicated type for s3 object keys Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 4/9] s3 client: add type for last modified timestamp in responses Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 5/9] s3 client: add helper to parse http date headers Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 6/9] s3 client: implement methods to operate on s3 objects in bucket Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 7/9] s3 client: add example usage for basic operations Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 8/9] pbs-api-types: extend datastore config by backend config enum Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v8 9/9] pbs-api-types: maintenance: add new maintenance mode S3 refresh Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 01/45] datastore: add helpers for path/digest to s3 object key conversion Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 7:24 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 8:34 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 02/45] config: introduce s3 object store client configuration Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 7:22 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 8:37 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 03/45] api: config: implement endpoints to manipulate and list s3 configs Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 7:32 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 8:40 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 9:07 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 04/45] api: datastore: check s3 backend bucket access on datastore create Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 7:40 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 8:55 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 05/45] api/cli: add endpoint and command to check s3 client connection Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 7:43 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 9:04 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 06/45] datastore: allow to get the backend for a datastore Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 7:52 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 9:10 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 07/45] api: backup: store datastore backend in runtime environment Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 7:54 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 08/45] api: backup: conditionally upload chunks to s3 object store backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:11 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 09/45] api: backup: conditionally upload blobs " Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:13 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 10/45] api: backup: conditionally upload indices " Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:20 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 9:24 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 11/45] api: backup: conditionally upload manifest " Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:26 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 9:33 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 12/45] api: datastore: conditionally upload client log to s3 backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:28 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 13/45] sync: pull: conditionally upload content " Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:35 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 9:43 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 14/45] api: reader: fetch chunks based on datastore backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:38 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 9:58 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 10:03 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 10:10 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 15/45] datastore: local chunk reader: read chunks based on backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:45 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 10:11 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 16/45] verify worker: add datastore backed to verify worker Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 17/45] verify: implement chunk verification for stores with s3 backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 8:56 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 11:45 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 18/45] datastore: create namespace marker in " Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 19/45] datastore: create/delete protected marker file on s3 storage backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 20/45] datastore: prune groups/snapshots from s3 object store backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 21/45] datastore: get and set owner for s3 " Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 9:25 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 12:12 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 22/45] datastore: implement garbage collection for s3 backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 9:47 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 14:31 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 23/45] ui: add datastore type selector and reorganize component layout Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 9:55 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 24/45] ui: add s3 client edit window for configuration create/edit Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 25/45] ui: add s3 client view for configuration Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 26/45] ui: expose the s3 client view in the navigation tree Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 27/45] ui: add s3 client selector and bucket field for s3 backend setup Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 10:02 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-19 12:28 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-22 9:25 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 28/45] tools: lru cache: add removed callback for evicted cache nodes Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 29/45] tools: async lru cache: implement insert, remove and contains methods Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 30/45] datastore: add local datastore cache for network attached storages Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 11:24 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 14:59 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 31/45] api: backup: use local datastore cache on s3 backend chunk upload Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 32/45] api: reader: use local datastore cache on s3 backend chunk fetching Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 33/45] datastore: local chunk reader: get cached chunk from local cache store Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 11:36 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 15:04 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 34/45] api: backup: add no-cache flag to bypass local datastore cache Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 11:41 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 15:37 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 35/45] api/datastore: implement refresh endpoint for stores with s3 backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 12:01 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-18 15:51 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 36/45] cli: add dedicated subcommand for datastore s3 refresh Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 37/45] ui: render s3 refresh as valid maintenance type and task description Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 38/45] ui: expose s3 refresh button for datastores backed by object store Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 12:46 ` Lukas Wagner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 39/45] datastore: conditionally upload atime marker chunk to s3 backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 40/45] bin: implement client subcommands for s3 configuration manipulation Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 41/45] bin: expose reuse-datastore flag for proxmox-backup-manager Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 42/45] datastore: mark store as in-use by setting marker on s3 backend Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 43/45] datastore: run s3-refresh when reusing a datastore with " Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 44/45] api/ui: add flag to allow overwriting in-use marker for " Christian Ebner
2025-07-15 12:53 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v8 45/45] docs: Add section describing how to setup s3 backed datastore Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 13:14 ` Maximiliano Sandoval [this message]
2025-07-18 14:38 ` Christian Ebner
2025-07-18 13:16 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox{, -backup} v8 00/54] fix #2943: S3 storage backend for datastores Lukas Wagner
2025-07-19 12:52 ` [pbs-devel] superseded: " Christian Ebner
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