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From: Wolfgang Bumiller <w.bumiller@proxmox.com>
To: Stefan Sterz <s.sterz@proxmox.com>
Cc: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 04/12] auth-api: move to hmac signing for csrf tokens
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 14:06:08 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <jin46ymei3dyk24nx73sv2rsndt2i23ulnnalz46kfcspq4rvk@xtgoyikyxzil> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <CZCCN475MJ6O.2PTBU7K3KEYO7@proxmox.com>

On Fri, Feb 23, 2024 at 10:26:15AM +0100, Stefan Sterz wrote:
> On Tue Feb 20, 2024 at 1:54 PM CET, Max Carrara wrote:
> > On 2/19/24 17:02, Max Carrara wrote:
> > > On 2/15/24 16:19, Stefan Sterz wrote:
> > >> +        let mut hasher = openssl::sha::Sha256::new();
> > >> +        let data = format!("{:08X}:{}:", ttime, userid);
> > >> +        hasher.update(data.as_bytes());
> > >> +        hasher.update(&secret.as_bytes()?);
> > >> +        let old_digest = hasher.finish();
> > >> +
> > >> +        if old_digest.len() != sig.len() && openssl::memcmp::eq(&old_digest, &sig) {
> > >> +            bail!("invalid signature.");
> > >> +        }
> > >
> > > This check should IMO be split into two for some finer-grained error handling - meaning,
> > > one `bail!()` for different `.len()`s and one if `old_digest` and `sig` are equal.
> > >
> 
> as discussed off-list: we should avoid very spcific error messages in
> this case. usually that is good practice as it makes debugging easier.
> however, here it just give more information to a potential attacker. i'm
> not even sure we should return an "invalid signature" error message
> here, rather a "csrf token is invalid" for all failure cases would
> probably be best. but since we are already here, changing it would also
> give more information to a potential attacker.

I'd stick with *not* splitting up the error message here - but mostly
out of habit, because the security impact is rather limited, given that
there aren't that many valid lengths to choose from when the code is
open source, so that's not something security should depend on either
;-)




  parent reply	other threads:[~2024-02-23 13:06 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-15 15:19 [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox{, -backup} 00/12] authentication cleanup and Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 01/12] auth-api: move signing into the private key Stefan Sterz
2024-02-26 20:22   ` Esi Y
2024-02-27  9:12     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-27 18:13       ` Esi Y
2024-02-29 16:07         ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 02/12] auth-api: move to Ed25519 signatures Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 03/12] auth-api: add ability to use hmac singing in keyring Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 04/12] auth-api: move to hmac signing for csrf tokens Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 16:02   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-20 12:54     ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26       ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-23 10:48         ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-02-23 10:52           ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-23 13:06         ` Wolfgang Bumiller [this message]
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 05/12] sys: crypt: move to yescrypt for password hashing Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 06/12] sys: crypt: use constant time comparison for password verification Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 16:11   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 07/12] sys: crypt: add helper to allow upgrading hashes Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 18:50   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 08/12] auth-api: fix types `compilefail` test Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 09/12] auth: move to hmac keys for csrf tokens Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 18:55   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 10/12] auth: upgrade hashes on user log in Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 18:58   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:20 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 11/12] auth/manager: add manager command to upgrade hashes Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 19:06   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:20 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 12/12] auth: us ec keys as auth keys Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 19:10   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz

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