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From: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: "Proxmox Backup Server development discussion"
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	"Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 31/36] specs: add backup detection mode specification
Date: Wed, 20 Mar 2024 10:28:32 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f5dae0fd-9789-4c60-9e67-315ad81fbaf3@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3c698a3b-1bc9-4c90-b302-e6f3a3f59f6f@proxmox.com>

On 3/12/24 13:31, Christian Ebner wrote:
> On 3/12/24 13:17, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
>> I already had this question in the other patch that uses this, but do we
>> need this kind of control? wouldn't a third value MetadataNoReuse (name
>> tbd ;)) to force a "cut" be enough (e.g., if I am either afraid that the
>> re-use might have bugs, or I want to reset the re-use / chunk
>> boundaries)?
> 
> No, this is not strictly necessary if we do not want to limit the 
> metadata change detection to specific archives for a multi-archive 
> backup. Should I remove this? I just considered this a nice to have.
> 

Reduced this to the 2 enum variants for now:
BackupDetectionMode::Data
BackupDetectionMode::Metadata

Maybe it makes sense to go in the other direction here and introduce an 
additional flag `--split-archive` or the like, and make this a 
requirement for setting the `--change-detection-mode` flag?
This would logically separate the splitting of the archive in metadata 
and payload streams during backup creation and decouple it from the 
actual change detection.





  reply	other threads:[~2024-03-20  9:29 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 94+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-05  9:26 [pbs-devel] [RFC pxar proxmox-backup 00/36] fix #3174: improve file-level backup Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 01/36] format/examples: add PXAR_PAYLOAD_REF entry header Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 02/36] encoder: add optional output writer for file payloads Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 13:21   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 13:50     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 15:41       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 03/36] format/decoder: add method to read payload references Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 04/36] decoder: add optional payload input stream Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 13:21   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 14:05     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 15:27       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:51         ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 05/36] accessor: " Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 13:21   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 06/36] encoder: move to stack based state tracking Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 13:21   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 14:12     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 07/36] encoder: add payload reference capability Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 13:21   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 14:15     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 08/36] encoder: add payload position capability Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 09/36] encoder: add payload advance capability Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 13:22   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 14:22     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 15:27       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:41         ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 pxar 10/36] encoder/format: finish payload stream with marker Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 11/36] client: pxar: switch to stack based encoder state Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 12/36] client: backup: factor out extension from backup target Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 13/36] client: backup: early check for fixed index type Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 14:57   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:12     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 14/36] client: backup: split payload to dedicated stream Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 14:57   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:22     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 15/36] client: restore: read payload from dedicated index Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 14:58   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:26     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 16/36] tools: cover meta extension for pxar archives Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 17/36] restore: " Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 18/36] client: mount: make split pxar archives mountable Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 14:58   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:29     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 19/36] api: datastore: refactor getting local chunk reader Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 20/36] api: datastore: attach optional payload " Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 21/36] catalog: shell: factor out pxar fuse reader instantiation Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 14:58   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:31     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 22/36] catalog: shell: redirect payload reader for split streams Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 14:58   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:24     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 23/36] www: cover meta extension for pxar archives Christian Ebner
2024-03-11 14:58   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-11 15:31     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 24/36] index: fetch chunk form index by start/end-offset Christian Ebner
2024-03-12  8:50   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-14  8:23     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-12 12:47   ` Dietmar Maurer
2024-03-12 12:51     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-12 13:03       ` Dietmar Maurer
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 25/36] upload stream: impl reused chunk injector Christian Ebner
2024-03-13  9:43   ` Dietmar Maurer
2024-03-14 14:03     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 26/36] client: chunk stream: add chunk injection queues Christian Ebner
2024-03-12  9:46   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-19 10:52     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 27/36] client: implement prepare reference method Christian Ebner
2024-03-12 10:07   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-19 11:51     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-19 12:49       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-20  8:37         ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 28/36] client: pxar: implement store to insert chunks on caching Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 29/36] client: pxar: add previous reference to archiver Christian Ebner
2024-03-12 12:12   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-12 12:25     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-19 12:59     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-19 13:04       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-20  8:52         ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 30/36] client: pxar: add method for metadata comparison Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 31/36] specs: add backup detection mode specification Christian Ebner
2024-03-12 12:17   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-12 12:31     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-20  9:28       ` Christian Ebner [this message]
2024-03-05  9:26 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 32/36] pxar: caching: add look-ahead cache types Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:27 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 33/36] client: pxar: add look-ahead caching Christian Ebner
2024-03-12 14:08   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-20 10:28     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-05  9:27 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 34/36] fix #3174: client: pxar: enable caching and meta comparison Christian Ebner
2024-03-13 11:12   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-05  9:27 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 35/36] test-suite: add detection mode change benchmark Christian Ebner
2024-03-13 11:48   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-05  9:27 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC v2 proxmox-backup 36/36] test-suite: Add bin to deb, add shell completions Christian Ebner
2024-03-13 11:18   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-13 11:44 ` [pbs-devel] [RFC pxar proxmox-backup 00/36] fix #3174: improve file-level backup Fabian Grünbichler

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