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From: Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	Gabriel Goller <g.goller@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 00/33] integrate notification system
Date: Wed, 17 Apr 2024 10:22:32 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <b854bafd-2d7b-4207-977d-bd44e4561d1e@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <f73e1a10-9e15-4f28-b1b5-7da2d04a5028@proxmox.com>

On  2024-04-12 16:09, Lukas Wagner wrote:
> On 12.04.24 15:59, Gabriel Goller wrote:
>> Another thing I noticed is that creating a datastore through the cli 
>> still uses the legacy notification system.
>>
> 
> Ah, thx!
> 

On second thought: I think I want to use the 'old system' by default for anything
that might be automated in some fashion (e.g. calling proxmox-backup-manager from a script, or
creating a datastore via the API).
Because a `proxmox-backup-manager datastore create ... --notify gc=never` 
(or an equivalent API call) would suddenly behave differently if we default to
the notification system (--notify is ignored then).
In the web UI it seems fine to automatically opt-in (we don't offer the option to change
notification settings there anyway), but for the CLI/API I'm not sure
if this is a good idea.

We *could* have some magic approach which opts into the notification system iff
  - mailto-user is *not* set (we defaulted to sending to root@pam then)
  - notify is also *not* set

But I'm not sure if I'm a fan of that - the 'auto' mode for backup jobs on PVE created
enough confusion already, so I'd rather be more explicit here - even if that
means that we have an opt-in approach until the next major release.


-- 
- Lukas




  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-17  8:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 47+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-04-12 10:05 Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:05 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 01/33] pbs-config: add module for loading notification config Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 02/33] server: rename email_notifications module to notifications Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 03/33] notifications: allow sending notifications via proxmox_notify Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 04/33] buildsys: install templates for test notifications Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 05/33] pbs-config: acl: add /system/notifications as known ACL path Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 06/33] api: add endpoints for querying/testing notification targets Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 07/33] api: add endpoints for notification matchers Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 08/33] api: add endpoints for sendmail targets Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 09/33] api: add endpoints for smtp targets Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 10/33] api: add endpoints for gotify targets Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 11/33] api: add endpoints for querying known notification values/fields Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 12/33] api-types: api: datatore: add notification-mode parameter Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 13/33] api-types: api: tape: " Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 14/33] server: notifications: send GC notifications via notification system Lukas Wagner
2024-04-15  9:41   ` Gabriel Goller
2024-04-15 14:10     ` Lukas Wagner
2024-04-16  9:37   ` Gabriel Goller
2024-04-16 12:13     ` Lukas Wagner
2024-04-17  7:46       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-17 14:26         ` Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 15/33] server: notifications: send prune " Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 16/33] server: notifications: send verify " Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 17/33] server: notifications: send sync " Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 18/33] server: notifications: send update " Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 19/33] server: notifications: send acme " Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 20/33] server: notifications: send tape " Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 21/33] ui: add notification config panel Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 22/33] ui: tape backup job: add selector for notification-mode Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 23/33] ui: tape backup: add selector for 'notification-mode' Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 24/33] ui: tape restore: add 'notification-mode' parameter Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 25/33] ui: datastore options: " Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 26/33] ui: utils: add overrides for known notification metadata fields/values Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 27/33] ui: datastore edit: make new stores use notification system by default Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 28/33] ui: permissions paths: add /system/notifications to combobox Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 29/33] proxmox-backup-manager: add CLI for notification targets Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 30/33] proxmox-backup-manager: add CLI for notification matchers Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 31/33] proxmox-backup-manager: add CLI for gotify endpoints Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 32/33] proxmox-backup-manager: add CLI for sendmail endpoints Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 10:06 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 33/33] proxmox-backup-manager: add CLI for SMTP endpoints Lukas Wagner
2024-04-12 13:59 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 00/33] integrate notification system Gabriel Goller
2024-04-12 14:09   ` Lukas Wagner
2024-04-17  8:22     ` Lukas Wagner [this message]
2024-04-17 10:26       ` Gabriel Goller
2024-04-17 10:26         ` Gabriel Goller
2024-04-17 12:31 ` Gabriel Goller
2024-04-17 14:38 ` Lukas Wagner

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