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From: "Stefan Sterz" <s.sterz@proxmox.com>
To: "Proxmox Backup Server development discussion"
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 11/12] auth/manager: add manager command to upgrade hashes
Date: Fri, 23 Feb 2024 10:26:36 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <CZCCNDQCTV21.36R66DJ5VMIW5@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <240bb08e-9297-41d6-a0ac-c2e8ef54bbae@proxmox.com>

On Mon Feb 19, 2024 at 8:06 PM CET, Max Carrara wrote:
> On 2/15/24 16:20, Stefan Sterz wrote:

-- >8 snip 8< --

> > ---
> > note that once an admin has upgraded a hash, downgrading
> > proxmox-backup-server will break logging in for all users with upgraded
> > passwords. an admin would then need to manually reset the password via
> > `proxmox-backup-manager user update <user> --password <pw>`.
>
> I think this is why we should implement dealing with all hashes we desire
> before the next major release, so that this doesn't happen. I can see this
> potentially cause quite a stir for some users.
>
> If we're able to differ between hash types (I think you mentioned we can)
> then we should represent the variants we may use *now* and prefer using
> the upgraded hash with the next major release. Or in other words, IMO we
> should remain forward compatible, at least (and at most) for one major
> version bump.
>

as i'd retract this patch too (see my response to patch 07), i think
this is a non-issue for now.

but yeah, dealing with this in a cleaner manner might make sense. the
problem here is that we'd need the newer version of the verify function
in the version that you want to downgrade to (note that we do not
support downgrades). you'd get that with the patch to `proxmox-sys` and
a bumped dependency in pbs automatically though, so this is kind of
seperate to this patch.

-- >8 snip 8< ---




  reply	other threads:[~2024-02-23  9:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-02-15 15:19 [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox{, -backup} 00/12] authentication cleanup and Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 01/12] auth-api: move signing into the private key Stefan Sterz
2024-02-26 20:22   ` Esi Y
2024-02-27  9:12     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-27 18:13       ` Esi Y
2024-02-29 16:07         ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 02/12] auth-api: move to Ed25519 signatures Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 03/12] auth-api: add ability to use hmac singing in keyring Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 04/12] auth-api: move to hmac signing for csrf tokens Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 16:02   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-20 12:54     ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26       ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-23 10:48         ` Thomas Lamprecht
2024-02-23 10:52           ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-23 13:06         ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 05/12] sys: crypt: move to yescrypt for password hashing Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 06/12] sys: crypt: use constant time comparison for password verification Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 16:11   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 07/12] sys: crypt: add helper to allow upgrading hashes Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 18:50   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox 08/12] auth-api: fix types `compilefail` test Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 09/12] auth: move to hmac keys for csrf tokens Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 18:55   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 10/12] auth: upgrade hashes on user log in Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 18:58   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz
2024-02-15 15:20 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 11/12] auth/manager: add manager command to upgrade hashes Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 19:06   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz [this message]
2024-02-15 15:20 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 12/12] auth: us ec keys as auth keys Stefan Sterz
2024-02-19 19:10   ` Max Carrara
2024-02-23  9:26     ` Stefan Sterz

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