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From: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>,
	Hannes Laimer <h.laimer@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 00/26] add removable datastores
Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2024 14:32:49 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <85d1ba3d-e5f5-4872-b41a-435ba2a60959@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <064ff027-e4c2-4909-9365-659da6dd1fd3@proxmox.com>

On 11/25/24 14:15, Lukas Wagner wrote:
> On  2024-11-22 15:46, Hannes Laimer wrote:
>> These patches add support for removable datastores. All removable
>> datastores have a backing-device(a UUID) associated with them. Removable
>> datastores work like normal ones, just that they can be unplugged. It is
>> possible to create a removable datastore, sync backups onto it, unplug
>> it and use it on a different PBS.
>>
>> The datastore path specified is relative to the root of the used device.
>> Removable datastores are bind mounted to /mnt/datastore/<NAME>.
>> Multiple datastores can be created on a single device, but only device with
>> a single datastore on them will be auto-mounted.
>>
>> When a removable datastore is deleted and 'destroy-data' is set, the
>> device has to be mounted. If 'destroy-data' is not set the datastore
>> can be deleted even if the device is not present. Removable datastores
>> are automatically mounted when plugged in.
>>
> 

[snip]

> 
> - Something that also was a bit confusing was the following:
>    - Attached new disk to my PBS test VM
>    - Formatted the disk as ext4 using the webui (name: disk1, device: sdb1), opting to NOT create a datastore as part of the formatting process
>    - Created a removable datastore on the new partition (name: disk1-store, device: sdb1)
>    -> This led to the partition being mounted twice:
> 
> /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/datastore/disk1 type ext4 (rw,relatime)
> /dev/sdb1 on /mnt/datastore/disk1-store type ext4 (rw,relatime)
> 
>    -> if 'unmount' is pressed for the datastore, only the second mount is unmounted. This could be confusing
>      to users who expect to be able to safely remove the disk after unmounting the datastore.
> 
>    - For contrast, if while creating the partition one opts to create the removable datastore immediately,
>      the partition is only mounted once.
> 
> 

i had slightly different, but also confusing experience

did basically the same as Lukas, but my target path was the exact same as the already mounted disk
which lead to an 'it's already mounted' error
(which yeah was expected, i just created the disk)

in that case we could e.g. try to simply use the already mounted path for that?
(idk how much work checking if it's the right on, etc. that would involve though...)


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Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-11-22 14:46 Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 01/25] pbs-api-types: add backing-device to DataStoreConfig Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:40   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 02/25] maintenance: make is_offline more generic Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 03/26] maintenance: add 'Unmount' maintenance type Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 04/25] datastore: add helper for checking if a datastore is mounted Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 05/25] api: admin: add (un)mount endpoint for removable datastores Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:24   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 06/25] api: removable datastore creation Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:40   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 07/25] api: add check for nested datastores on creation Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:44   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-25 14:48     ` Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 14:53       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 08/25] pbs-api-types: add mount_status field to DataStoreListItem Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 09/26] bin: manager: add (un)mount command Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 10/25] add auto-mounting for removable datastores Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:47   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 11/25] datastore: handle deletion of removable datastore properly Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 12/25] docs: add removable datastores section Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 13/26] ui: add partition selector form Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 14/26] ui: add removable datastore creation support Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 12:44   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 15/26] ui: add (un)mount button to summary Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:00   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 16/26] ui: tree: render unmounted datastores correctly Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25  8:47   ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14] fixup! " Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:06     ` Dominik Csapak
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 17/26] ui: utils: make parseMaintenanceMode more robust Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 18/26] ui: add datastore status mask for unmounted removable datastores Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 19/26] ui: maintenance: fix disable msg field if no type is selected Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:23   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 20/26] ui: render 'unmount' maintenance mode correctly Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:24   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 21/25] api: node: allow creation of removable datastore through directory endpoint Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 22/25] api: node: include removable datastores in directory list Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 23/26] node: disks: replace BASE_MOUNT_DIR with DATASTORE_MOUNT_DIR Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 24/26] ui: support create removable datastore through directory creation Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:28   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-11-25 16:21     ` Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 25/26] bin: debug: add inspect device command Hannes Laimer
2024-11-22 14:47 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 26/26] api: disks: only return UUID of partitions if it actually is one Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25  6:19 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v14 00/26] add removable datastores Hannes Laimer
2024-11-25 13:15 ` Lukas Wagner
2024-11-25 13:32   ` Dominik Csapak [this message]

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