From: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 proxmox-backup 5/5] fix #5331: garbage collection: avoid multiple chunk atime updates
Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 17:57:50 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <50f35843-a631-4d66-91f2-cbac4a24e184@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250326100333.116722-6-c.ebner@proxmox.com>
Am 26.03.25 um 11:03 schrieb Christian Ebner:
> Basic benchmarking:
>
> Number of utimensat calls shows significatn reduction:
> unpatched: 31591944
> patched: 1495136
>
> Total GC runtime shows significatn reduction (average of 3 runs):
> unpatched: 155.4 ± 3.5 s
> patched: 22.8 ± 0.5 s
Thanks a lot for providing these numbers, and what a nice runtime
improvement!
>
> VmPeak measured via /proc/self/status before and after
> `mark_used_chunks` (proxmox-backup-proxy was restarted in between
> for normalization, average of 3 runs):
> unpatched before: 1196028 ± 0 kB
> unpatched after: 1196028 ± 0 kB
>
> unpatched before: 1163337 ± 28317 kB
> unpatched after: 1330906 ± 29280 kB
> delta: 167569 kB
VmPeak is virtual memory though, not something like resident set size,
or better proportional set size – but yeah that's harder to get.
Simplest way might be polling something like `ps -o pid,rss,pss -u backup`
in a shell alongside the GC run a few times per second, e.g.:
while :; do printf '%s ' $(date '+%T.%3N'); $(); ps -o pid,rss,pss -u backup --no-headers; sleep 0.5; done | tee gc-stats
And then get the highest PSS values via:
sort -nk4,4 gc-stats | tail
I do not think this needs to be redone, and a new revision needs to be
send though. But, it might be nice to do a quick test just for a rough
comparison to VmPeak delta.
>
> Dependence on the cache capacity:
> capacity runtime[s] VmPeakDiff[kB]
> 1*1024 66.221 0
> 10*1024 36.164 0
> 100*1024 23.141 0
> 1024*1024 22.188 101060
Hmm, seems like we could lower the cache size to something like 128*1024
or 256*1024 and get already most benefits for this workload.
What do you think about applying this as is and after doing a quick RSS
and/or PSS benchmark decide if it's worth to start out a bit smaller, as
167 MiB delta is a bit much for my taste if a quarter of that is enough
to get most benefits. If the actual used memory (not just virtual memory
mappings) is rather closer to the cache size without overhead (32 MiB),
I'd be fine with keeping this as is.
tuning option in MiB (i.e. 32 MiB / 32 B == 1024*1024 capacity) where the
admin can better control this themselves.
> 10*1024*1024 23.178 689660
> 100*1024*1024 25.135 5507292
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Thread overview: 16+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-03-26 10:03 [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 proxmox-backup 0/5] fix #5331: GC: avoid multiple " Christian Ebner
2025-03-26 10:03 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 proxmox-backup 1/5] tools: lru cache: tell if node was already present or newly inserted Christian Ebner
2025-03-26 10:03 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 proxmox-backup 2/5] garbage collection: format error including anyhow error context Christian Ebner
2025-03-26 10:03 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 proxmox-backup 3/5] datastore: add helper method to open index reader from path Christian Ebner
2025-03-26 10:03 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 proxmox-backup 4/5] garbage collection: generate index file list via datastore iterators Christian Ebner
2025-04-02 17:26 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-04-02 19:39 ` Christian Ebner
2025-03-26 10:03 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 proxmox-backup 5/5] fix #5331: garbage collection: avoid multiple chunk atime updates Christian Ebner
2025-04-02 15:57 ` Thomas Lamprecht [this message]
2025-04-02 19:50 ` Christian Ebner
2025-04-02 19:54 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-04-02 17:45 ` [pbs-devel] applied-series: [PATCH v5 proxmox-backup 0/5] fix #5331: GC: avoid multiple " Thomas Lamprecht
2025-04-03 9:55 ` Christian Ebner
2025-04-03 10:17 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2025-04-03 10:24 ` Christian Ebner
2025-04-03 10:30 ` Thomas Lamprecht
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