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From: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>,
	Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 54/65] docs: add section describing change detection mode
Date: Thu, 23 May 2024 11:28:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <317ff75b-14e2-49a8-b47d-95247cb55b00@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240514103421.289431-55-c.ebner@proxmox.com>

two comments here,

* i'd like for the docs to go a bit more into detail what the metadata
   *is* (or link to a section where it's explained, e.g. in the mpxar format?)
   because metadata can be mtime,size,inode,ctime,etc. and e.g. in borg backup
   you can even choose which you want

* the 'technical overview' part still mentions that all data has to be read
   so a short mention of the change detection mode with link here would be good

On 5/14/24 12:34, Christian Ebner wrote:
> Describe the motivation and basic principle of the clients change
> detection mode and show an example invocation.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
> ---
>   docs/backup-client.rst | 41 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>   1 file changed, 41 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/docs/backup-client.rst b/docs/backup-client.rst
> index 00a1abbb3..e48b5dd60 100644
> --- a/docs/backup-client.rst
> +++ b/docs/backup-client.rst
> @@ -280,6 +280,47 @@ Multiple paths can be excluded like this:
>   
>       # proxmox-backup-client backup.pxar:./linux --exclude=/usr --exclude=/rust
>   
> +.. _client_change_detection_mode:
> +
> +Change detection mode
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +File-based backups containing a lot of data can take a long time, as the default
> +behavior for the Proxmox backup client is to read all data and re-encode it.
> +The encoded stream is split into variable sized chunks for efficient
> +deduplication and based on the chunk digest a decision can be made whether a
> +given chunk needs to be uploaded or can be indexed without upload as it is
> +already available on the server (and therefore deduplicated). For some
> +use-cases, where files do not change frequently the full re-reading is not
> +feasible and undesired.
> +
> +The backup clients `change-detection-mode` can be switched from default to
> +`metadata` based detection to reduce limitations as described above, instructing
> +the client to avoid re-reading files with unchanged metadata whenever possible.
> +When using this mode, instead of the regular pxar archive, the backup snapshot
> +is stored into two separate files: the `mpxar` containing the archives metadata
> +and the `ppxar` containing a concatenation of the file contents. This splitting
> +allows for metadata lookups without the overhead of the file contents.
> +Using the `change-detection-mode` set to `data` allows to create the same split
> +archive as when using the `metadata` mode, but without using a previous
> +reference and therefore reencoding all file payloads.
> +
> +When creating the backup archives, the current file metadata is compared to the
> +one looked up in the previous `mpxar` archive, and if unchanged the entry cached
> +for possible re-use of content chunks without re-reading, by indexing the
> +already present chunks containing the contents from the previous backup
> +snapshot. Since the file might only partially re-use chunks (thereby introducing
> +wasted space in the form of padding), the decision whether to re-use or
> +re-encode the currently cached entries is delegated to when enough information
> +is available, comparing the possible padding a threshold value.
> +
> +The following shows an example for the client invocation with the `metadata`
> +mode:
> +
> +.. code-block:: console
> +
> +    # proxmox-backup-client backup.pxar:./linux --change-detection-mode=metadata
> +
>   .. _client_encryption:
>   
>   Encryption



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  reply	other threads:[~2024-05-23  9:28 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 98+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-05-14 10:33 [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 pxar proxmox-backup 00/62] fix #3174: improve file-level backup Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 01/14] format/examples: add header type `PXAR_PAYLOAD_REF` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 02/14] decoder: add method to read payload references Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 03/14] decoder: factor out skip part from skip_entry Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 04/14] encoder: add optional output writer for file payloads Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 10:06   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-21 10:21     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 05/14] encoder: move to stack based state tracking Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 06/14] decoder/accessor: add optional payload input stream Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 07/14] decoder: set payload input range when decoding via accessor Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 08/14] encoder: add payload reference capability Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 09/14] encoder: add payload position capability Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 10/14] encoder: add payload advance capability Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 11/14] encoder/format: finish payload stream with marker Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 12/14] format: add payload stream start marker Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 13/14] format/encoder/decoder: new pxar entry type `Version` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 pxar 14/14] format/encoder/decoder: new pxar entry type `Prelude` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 15/65] client: pxar: switch to stack based encoder state Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 16/65] client: backup: factor out extension from backup target Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 17/65] client: pxar: combine writers into struct Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 10:29   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-21 13:30     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 18/65] client: pxar: add optional pxar payload writer instance Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 19/65] client: pxar: optionally split metadata and payload streams Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 20/65] client: helper: add helpers for creating reader instances Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 12:26   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 21/65] client: helper: add method for split archive name mapping Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 22/65] client: restore: read payload from dedicated index Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 12:44   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-24  6:45     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 23/65] tools: cover extension for split pxar archives Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 24/65] restore: " Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 25/65] client: mount: make split pxar archives mountable Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 12:54   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 26/65] api: datastore: refactor getting local chunk reader Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 27/65] api: datastore: attach optional payload " Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 13:12   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-24  6:48     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 28/65] catalog: shell: make split pxar archives accessible Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 29/65] www: cover metadata extension for pxar archives Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 30/65] file restore: factor out getting pxar reader Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 13:19   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-21 14:07     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 31/65] file restore: cover split metadata and payload archives Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 13:25   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 32/65] file restore: show more error context when extraction fails Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 33/65] pxar: add optional payload input for achive restore Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 34/65] pxar: add more context to extraction error Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 35/65] client: pxar: include payload offset in entry listing Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 36/65] pxar: show padding in debug output on archive list Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 37/65] datastore: dynamic index: add method to get digest Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 38/65] client: pxar: helper for lookup of reusable dynamic entries Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 39/65] upload stream: implement reused chunk injector Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 40/65] client: chunk stream: add struct to hold injection state Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 41/65] chunker: add method to reset chunker state Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 42/65] client: streams: add channels for dynamic entry injection Christian Ebner
2024-05-22  9:56   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-24  6:57     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:33 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 43/65] specs: add backup detection mode specification Christian Ebner
2024-05-22 13:07   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-24  6:59     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 44/65] client: implement prepare reference method Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 45/65] client: pxar: add method for metadata comparison Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 46/65] pxar: caching: add look-ahead cache types Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 47/65] fix #3174: client: pxar: enable caching and meta comparison Christian Ebner
2024-05-22 14:45   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-24  8:50     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 48/65] client: backup writer: add injected chunk count to stats Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 49/65] pxar: create: keep track of reused chunks and files Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 50/65] pxar: create: show chunk injection stats debug output Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 51/65] client: pxar: add helper to handle optional preludes Christian Ebner
2024-05-23  8:47   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 52/65] client: pxar: opt encode cli exclude patterns as Prelude Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 53/65] docs: file formats: describe split pxar archive file layout Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 54/65] docs: add section describing change detection mode Christian Ebner
2024-05-23  9:28   ` Dominik Csapak [this message]
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 55/65] test-suite: add detection mode change benchmark Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 56/65] test-suite: add bin to deb, add shell completions Christian Ebner
2024-05-23  9:32   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 57/65] datastore: chunker: add Chunker trait Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 58/65] datastore: chunker: implement chunker for payload stream Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 59/65] client: chunk stream: switch payload stream chunker Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 60/65] client: pxar: allow to restore prelude to optional path Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 61/65] client: pxar: add archive creation with reference test Christian Ebner
2024-05-23 10:04   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-23 10:17     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-23 10:17       ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-27 11:05         ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-27 11:17           ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 62/65] client: tools: add helper to raise nofile rlimit Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 63/65] client: pxar: set cache limit based on " Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 64/65] chunker: tests: add regression tests for payload chunker Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 11:23   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-21 11:27     ` Christian Ebner
2024-05-14 10:34 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v6 proxmox-backup 65/65] chunk stream: " Christian Ebner
2024-05-21 11:21   ` Dominik Csapak
2024-05-14 10:45 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v5 pxar proxmox-backup 00/62] fix #3174: improve file-level backup Christian Ebner
2024-05-27 14:35 ` Christian Ebner

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