From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
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Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox{, -backup} v4 00/12] parallelize chunk reads in verification
Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2025 13:53:28 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <1763030636.kcagc316qr.astroid@yuna.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20251113093118.195229-1-n.frey@proxmox.com>
Gave this a spin as well, the code looks good to me and adding more
threads does make things faster, although finding the best combination
is probably a bit tricky:
1:4 90s (baseline)
1:8 91s (verify threads were already not fully utilized in the baseline)
4:4 46s
2:6 58s
these were with a smaller set of snapshots and a warm cache.
with a full datastore that doesn't fit into RAM/cache:
1:4 408s
1:8 349s
4:4 159s
2:6 204s
adding more threads mostly does not help anymore in my case..
On November 13, 2025 10:31 am, Nicolas Frey wrote:
> This patch series aims to expand on Dominik's series [0] written for
> pbs 3, parallelizing chunk reads in `VerifyWorker` using a seperate
> thread pool from the verification.
>
> The number of threads was previously hard-coded, but is now
> configurable via the API and GUI with new properties called
> `{read,verify}-threads`, similarly to tape backups.
>
> The number of threads should also be configurable through tuning
> options or datastore config (as discussed by Chris & Thomas on list),
> which can be added in a follow up patch series.
>
> In my local tests I measured the following speed difference:
> verified a single snapshot with ~32 GiB (4x the RAM size) with 4
> cores (just changing the read threads)
>
> 1 thread: ~440MiB/s
> 2 threads: ~780MiB/s
> 4 threads: ~1140MiB/s
>
> [0] https://lore.proxmox.com/pbs-devel/20250707132706.2854973-1-d.csapak@proxmox.com/#t
>
> Changes since v3, thanks Chris!:
> * correct the ordering of patches
> * move thread schemas into jobs.rs, rename them and add more specific
> descriptions
> * add api schema for {read,verify}-threads in backup manager
> * add doc for new parameters
> * rebase
>
> Changes since v2:
> * split move to parallel handler into 2 seperate commits
> * add constructor to `IndexVerifyState` and clean up nits
>
> Changes since v1, thanks to Chris:
> * define dedicated schema for {worker,read,verify}-threads
> * rebase proxmox-backup
> * introduce new state struct `IndexVerifyState` to reduce the amount
> of Arc clones and overall better bundling
> * adjust update endpoint and UI to the new properties
>
> proxmox:
>
> Nicolas Frey (3):
> pbs-api-types: add schema for {worker,read,verify}-threads
> pbs-api-types: jobs: add {read,verify}-threads to
> VerificationJobConfig
> pbs-api-types: use worker-threads schema for TapeBackupJobSetup
>
> pbs-api-types/src/jobs.rs | 41 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++-----
> 1 file changed, 36 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>
>
> proxmox-backup:
>
> Nicolas Frey (9):
> verify: correct typo in comment
> verify: introduce new state struct
> verify: refactor into associated functions to use new state struct
> verify: move chunk loading into parallel handler
> verify: determine the number of threads to use with
> {read,verify}-threads
> verify: add {read,verify}-threads to update endpoint
> verify: add {read,verify}-threads to api schema in backup manager
> ui: verify: add option to set number of threads for job
> docs: verify: document {read,verify}-threads and update screenshot
>
> .../pbs-gui-datastore-verifyjob-add.png | Bin 15455 -> 41433 bytes
> docs/maintenance.rst | 11 +-
> src/api2/admin/datastore.rs | 16 +-
> src/api2/backup/environment.rs | 4 +-
> src/api2/config/verify.rs | 16 ++
> src/backup/verify.rs | 171 +++++++++++-------
> src/bin/proxmox-backup-manager.rs | 11 +-
> src/server/verify_job.rs | 7 +-
> www/window/VerifyAll.js | 18 ++
> www/window/VerifyJobEdit.js | 24 +++
> 10 files changed, 210 insertions(+), 68 deletions(-)
>
>
> Summary over all repositories:
> 11 files changed, 246 insertions(+), 73 deletions(-)
>
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Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2025-11-13 9:31 Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v4 1/3] pbs-api-types: add schema for {worker, read, verify}-threads Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v4 2/3] pbs-api-types: jobs: add {read, verify}-threads to VerificationJobConfig Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox v4 3/3] pbs-api-types: use worker-threads schema for TapeBackupJobSetup Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 1/9] verify: correct typo in comment Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 2/9] verify: introduce new state struct Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 3/9] verify: refactor into associated functions to use " Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 4/9] verify: move chunk loading into parallel handler Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 5/9] verify: determine the number of threads to use with {read, verify}-threads Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 6/9] verify: add {read, verify}-threads to update endpoint Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 7/9] verify: add {read, verify}-threads to api schema in backup manager Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 8/9] ui: verify: add option to set number of threads for job Nicolas Frey
2025-11-13 9:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v4 9/9] docs: verify: document {read, verify}-threads and update screenshot Nicolas Frey
2025-11-14 10:41 ` Christian Ebner
2025-11-13 12:53 ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2025-11-14 10:46 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox{, -backup} v4 00/12] parallelize chunk reads in verification Christian Ebner
2025-11-14 21:36 ` [pbs-devel] applied: " Thomas Lamprecht
2025-11-14 22:17 ` Thomas Lamprecht
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