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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 3/3] client: reader: signal server before client disconnect
Date: Thu, 05 Dec 2024 10:40:13 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1733391458.kkqrcennv3.astroid@yuna.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <ab598953-e9de-4bb3-82f8-f94ec27d743c@proxmox.com>

On December 4, 2024 3:13 pm, Christian Ebner wrote:
> On 12/4/24 14:49, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
>> On December 4, 2024 9:31 am, Christian Ebner wrote:
>>> Signal the server that the client has successfully finished its
>>> operation and is about to close the connection. This allows the server
>>> side to react and clean up the connection, without returning and
>>> logging an error state, as that can cause confusion [0], as this is
>>> not an error but normal behaviour.
>>>
>>> Report in the community forum:
>>> [0] https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/158306/
>>>
>>> Signed-off-by: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
>>> ---
>>> changes since version 1:
>>> - no changes
>>>
>>> Note:
>>> I am not sure this is the best approach, as this might block the
>>> thread until the server responds or it runs into a time out.
>>>
>>> The alternative would require completely reworking all backup reader
>>> related call sides. Or maybe there is another alternative?
>>>
>>>   pbs-client/src/backup_reader.rs | 2 ++
>>>   1 file changed, 2 insertions(+)
>>>
>>> diff --git a/pbs-client/src/backup_reader.rs b/pbs-client/src/backup_reader.rs
>>> index 88cba599b..63106c999 100644
>>> --- a/pbs-client/src/backup_reader.rs
>>> +++ b/pbs-client/src/backup_reader.rs
>>> @@ -27,6 +27,8 @@ pub struct BackupReader {
>>>   
>>>   impl Drop for BackupReader {
>>>       fn drop(&mut self) {
>>> +        // Ignore errors
>>> +        let _ = proxmox_async::runtime::block_on(self.post("finish", None));
>> 
>> should we maybe make this explicit, like we do in the BackupWriter? I
>> know that it's a bit less "obvious" here compared to writer sessions
>> what constitutes success/being finished ;)
>> 
>> means a bit more churn now to adapt the users of BackupReader, but would
>> make it possible to differentiate server side whether a reader session
>> was exited normally or via an error?
> 
> Yes, that is basically what I meant in the note:
> The current approach is more of a catch all. Explicitly calling the 
> finish for each reader instance might be prove difficult because of all 
> the Arc instances being passed around and/or the reader instantiation 
> happening in a helper which then only returns the wrapped consumer of 
> the reader instance, e.g. a `RemoteChunkReader` or `pxar::Accessor`.
> 
> Will have a look on how to handle this, but it will require some bigger 
> refactoring.
> 
>> we could even provide some sort of message via the finish API call that
>> the server could log if desired, differentiating between:
>> 
>> - regular finish (no error/warning)
>> - finish called with a warning message (warning)
>> - finish not called, reader went away (error)
>> 
>> ?
> 
> Not sure about this: What warnings do we even want to tell the server 
> about? I think the reader instance will either work without issues or 
> fail with a hard error? Or do you have some specific use-case in mind here?

well it would be a way to record on the server that that reader "failed"
from a client's point of view, which would then be reflected in the task
lists/warning counts/..

e.g., if you do a restore, but abort it in the middle for some reason,
you could tell the server so that an admin looking at the server side
tasks can tell that this was an "incomplete" read session (this would
just be warning case, not an error).

not sure it's worth it / makes sense, but wanted to put it out there :)

if we just want to disambiguate "client vanished" vs "client said good
bye", then the approach in this patch is probably fine.


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  reply	other threads:[~2024-12-05  9:40 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-12-04  8:31 [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 0/3] handle reader client disconnects Christian Ebner
2024-12-04  8:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 1/3] client: backup: remove unnecessary clone for backup reader Christian Ebner
2024-12-04 13:50   ` [pbs-devel] applied: " Fabian Grünbichler
2024-12-04  8:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 2/3] api: reader: handle reader client disconnects Christian Ebner
2024-12-04  8:31 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 3/3] client: reader: signal server before client disconnect Christian Ebner
2024-12-04 13:49   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-12-04 14:13     ` Christian Ebner
2024-12-05  9:40       ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2024-12-05  9:56         ` Christian Ebner
2024-12-05 11:29           ` Fabian Grünbichler

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