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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>, pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 56/58] docs: add section describing change detection mode
Date: Fri, 05 Apr 2024 13:22:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <171231616753.1926770.10738045721029938736@yuna.proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20240328123707.336951-57-c.ebner@proxmox.com>

Quoting Christian Ebner (2024-03-28 13:37:05)
> Describe the motivation and basic principle of the clients change
> detection mode and show an example invocation.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
> ---
> changes since version 2:
> - not present in previous version
> 
>  docs/backup-client.rst | 33 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 33 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/docs/backup-client.rst b/docs/backup-client.rst
> index 00a1abbb3..e54a52bf4 100644
> --- a/docs/backup-client.rst
> +++ b/docs/backup-client.rst
> @@ -280,6 +280,39 @@ Multiple paths can be excluded like this:
>  
>      # proxmox-backup-client backup.pxar:./linux --exclude=/usr --exclude=/rust
>  
> +.. _client_change_detection_mode:
> +
> +Change detection mode
> +~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> +
> +Backing up filesystems with large contents can take a long time, as the default
> +behaviour for the Proxmox Backup Client is to read all data and re-encode it
> +into chunks. For some usecases, where files do not change frequently this is not
> +feasible and undesired.

Maybe

File-based backups containing a lot of data can

and maybe also add something along the lines of "before being able to decide
whether those chunks need uploading or are already available on the server."

> +
> +In order to instruct the client to not re-encode files with unchanged metadata,

re-read (as that is what gives us the performance bonus ;))

> +the `change-detection-mode` can be set from the default `data` to `metadata`.
> +By this, regular file payloads for files with unchanged metadata are looked up

s/By this/In this mode

do we want to explain "payload" here? or just use "contents" or "data"?

> +and re-used from the previous backup runs snapshot when possible. For this to

s/runs//

> +be feasible, the pxar archives for backup runs using this mode are split into

s/ runs/s/

> +two separate files, the `mpxar` containing the archives metadata and the `ppxar`
> +containing a concatenation of the file payloads.
> +
> +During backup, the current file metadata is compared to the one looked up in the

During the backup 

or maybe

When creating the backup archives, 

> +previous `mpxar` archive, and if unchanged, the payload of the file is included
> +in the current backup by referencing the indices of the previous snaphshot. The

by reusing the chunks containing that payload in the previous snapshot.

> +increase in backup speed comes at the cost of a possible increase of used space,
> +as chunks might only be partially reused, containing unneeded padding. This is
> +however minimized by selectively re-encoding files where the padding overhead
> +does not justify a re-use.

nit: reused is not hyphenated consistenly

> +
> +The following shows an example for the client invocation with the `metadata`
> +mode:
> +
> +.. code-block:: console
> +
> +    # proxmox-backup-client backup.pxar:./linux --change-detection-mode=metadata
> +
>  .. _client_encryption:
>  
>  Encryption
> -- 
> 2.39.2
> 
> 
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2024-04-05 11:22 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 122+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-03-28 12:36 [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar proxmox-backup 00/58] fix #3174: improve file-level backup Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 01/58] encoder: fix two typos in comments Christian Ebner
2024-04-03  9:12   ` [pbs-devel] applied: " Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 02/58] format/examples: add PXAR_PAYLOAD_REF entry header Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 03/58] decoder: add method to read payload references Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 04/58] decoder: factor out skip part from skip_entry Christian Ebner
2024-04-03  9:18   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-03 11:02     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 05/58] encoder: add optional output writer for file payloads Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 06/58] encoder: move to stack based state tracking Christian Ebner
2024-04-03  9:54   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-03 11:01     ` Christian Ebner
2024-04-04  8:48       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-04  9:04         ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 07/58] decoder/accessor: add optional payload input stream Christian Ebner
2024-04-03 10:38   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-03 11:47     ` Christian Ebner
2024-04-03 12:18     ` Christian Ebner
2024-04-04  8:46       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-04  9:49         ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 08/58] encoder: add payload reference capability Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 09/58] encoder: add payload position capability Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 10/58] encoder: add payload advance capability Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 11/58] encoder/format: finish payload stream with marker Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 12/58] format: add payload stream start marker Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 13/58] format: add pxar format version entry Christian Ebner
2024-04-03 11:41   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-03 13:31     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar 14/58] format/encoder/decoder: add entry type cli params Christian Ebner
2024-04-03 12:01   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-03 14:41     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 15/58] client: pxar: switch to stack based encoder state Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 16/58] client: backup writer: only borrow http client Christian Ebner
2024-04-08  9:04   ` [pbs-devel] applied: " Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-08  9:17     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 17/58] client: backup: factor out extension from backup target Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 18/58] client: backup: early check for fixed index type Christian Ebner
2024-04-08  9:05   ` [pbs-devel] applied: " Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 19/58] client: pxar: combine writer params into struct Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 20/58] client: backup: split payload to dedicated stream Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 21/58] client: helper: add helpers for creating reader instances Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 22/58] client: helper: add method for split archive name mapping Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 23/58] client: restore: read payload from dedicated index Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 24/58] tools: cover meta extension for pxar archives Christian Ebner
2024-04-04  9:01   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-04  9:06     ` Christian Ebner
2024-04-04  9:10       ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 25/58] restore: " Christian Ebner
2024-04-04  9:02   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 26/58] client: mount: make split pxar archives mountable Christian Ebner
2024-04-04  9:43   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-04 13:29     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 27/58] api: datastore: refactor getting local chunk reader Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 28/58] api: datastore: attach optional payload " Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 29/58] catalog: shell: factor out pxar fuse reader instantiation Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 30/58] catalog: shell: redirect payload reader for split streams Christian Ebner
2024-04-04  9:49   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-04 15:52     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 31/58] www: cover meta extension for pxar archives Christian Ebner
2024-04-04 10:01   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-04 14:51     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 32/58] pxar: add optional payload input for achive restore Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 33/58] pxar: add more context to extraction error Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 34/58] client: pxar: include payload offset in output Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 35/58] pxar: show padding in debug output on archive list Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 36/58] datastore: dynamic index: add method to get digest Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 37/58] client: pxar: helper for lookup of reusable dynamic entries Christian Ebner
2024-04-04 12:54   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-04 17:13     ` Christian Ebner
2024-04-05  7:22       ` Christian Ebner
2024-04-05 11:28   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 38/58] upload stream: impl reused chunk injector Christian Ebner
2024-04-04 14:24   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-05 10:26     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 39/58] client: chunk stream: add struct to hold injection state Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 40/58] client: chunk stream: add dynamic entries injection queues Christian Ebner
2024-04-04 14:52   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-08 13:54     ` Christian Ebner
2024-04-09  7:19       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 41/58] specs: add backup detection mode specification Christian Ebner
2024-04-04 14:54   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-08 13:36     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 42/58] client: implement prepare reference method Christian Ebner
2024-04-05  8:01   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 43/58] client: pxar: implement store to insert chunks on caching Christian Ebner
2024-04-05  7:52   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-09  9:12     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 44/58] client: pxar: add previous reference to archiver Christian Ebner
2024-04-04 15:04   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 45/58] client: pxar: add method for metadata comparison Christian Ebner
2024-04-05  8:08   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-05  8:14     ` Christian Ebner
2024-04-09 12:52       ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 46/58] pxar: caching: add look-ahead cache types Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 47/58] client: pxar: add look-ahead caching Christian Ebner
2024-04-05  8:33   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-09 14:53     ` Christian Ebner
     [not found]       ` <<dce38c53-f3e7-47ac-b1fd-a63daaabbcec@proxmox.com>
2024-04-10  7:03         ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-10  7:11           ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 48/58] fix #3174: client: pxar: enable caching and meta comparison Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 49/58] client: backup: increase average chunk size for metadata Christian Ebner
2024-04-05  9:42   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-05 10:49     ` Dietmar Maurer
2024-04-08  8:28       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:36 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 50/58] client: backup writer: add injected chunk count to stats Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:37 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 51/58] pxar: create: show chunk injection stats debug output Christian Ebner
2024-04-05  9:47   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-10 10:00     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:37 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 52/58] client: pxar: add entry kind format version Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:37 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 53/58] client: pxar: opt encode cli exclude patterns as CliParams Christian Ebner
2024-04-05  9:49   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:37 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 54/58] client: pxar: add flow chart for metadata change detection Christian Ebner
2024-04-05 10:16   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-10 10:04     ` Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:37 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 55/58] docs: describe file format for split payload files Christian Ebner
2024-04-05 10:26   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-03-28 12:37 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 56/58] docs: add section describing change detection mode Christian Ebner
2024-04-05 11:22   ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2024-03-28 12:37 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 57/58] test-suite: add detection mode change benchmark Christian Ebner
2024-03-28 12:37 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 proxmox-backup 58/58] test-suite: add bin to deb, add shell completions Christian Ebner
2024-04-05 11:39 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v3 pxar proxmox-backup 00/58] fix #3174: improve file-level backup Fabian Grünbichler
2024-04-29 12:13 ` Christian Ebner

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