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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>, pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 13/31] api types: define remote permissions and roles for push sync
Date: Thu, 5 Sep 2024 14:42:17 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1189859573.24368.1725540137207@webmail.proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <67b06124-9db7-4604-85de-5cf391f47073@proxmox.com>

> Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com> hat am 05.09.2024 14:26 CEST geschrieben:
> On 9/5/24 14:12, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
> > On September 5, 2024 1:17 pm, Christian Ebner wrote:
> >> On 8/7/24 13:21, Fabian Grünbichler wrote:
> >>> after thinking about this some more - this is missing some more bits I think.
> >>>
> >>> for a pull based sync, we have two users:
> >>> - local owner/user
> >>> - remote user via remote.cfg
> >>>
> >>> we only ever query/read from the remote side, so having two privs is fine:
> >>> - one to see the remote in the first place
> >>> - one to read backups that the configured remote user sees
> >>>
> >>> for the local side, we have the full set of privs/operations:
> >>> - create/delete namespaces (DATASTORE_MODIFY)
> >>> - delete snapshots or groups (DATASTORE_MODIFY or DATASTORE_PRUNE+owner)
> >>> - create snapshots or groups (DATASTORE_BACKUP+owner)
> >>>
> >>> but for push based backups, we basically need to map the "local" privs from a
> >>> pull to the remote privs, since we possibly need to do the same set of
> >>> operations (while in the case of push, we only query/read the local side, so
> >>> the priv matrix there is simpler).
> > 
> > you didn't reply to this part - would you agree with the above approach?
> 
> Maybe I did not understand you correctly here: Is this not already 
> inherently given by the user permission on the remote target for push 
> operations? Or do you meant to explicitly implement these permissions 
> and check for these on the source side before even attempting to perform 
> a push operation? Is that even possible, as the authid for the remote is 
> configured in the remote.cfg and not as user?

no, what I meant is that we basically need to extend the remote privs (on the source side) so that it is possible to say:

"local user X is allowed to create namespaces on remote A" (provided the remote user for remote A can do that, of course). basically we want a REMOTE_DATASTORE_MODIFY, and only do certain operations if the user doing the sync/pull has that. the same applies to DATASTORE_PRUNE (e.g., to use remove_vanished with pushing I need to have REMOTE_DATASTORE_PRUNE), else I can't give a user push rights to a remote where the remote user has DATASTORE_MODIFY on the other end, because I'd risk a sync deleting whole trees of backups..


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Thread overview: 46+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2024-08-01  7:43 [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 00/31] fix #3044: push datastore to remote target Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 01/31] api: datastore: add missing whitespace in description Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 02/31] server: sync: move sync related stats to common module Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 03/31] server: sync: move reader trait to common sync module Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 04/31] server: sync: move source " Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 05/31] client: backup writer: bundle upload stats counters Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 06/31] client: backup writer: factor out merged chunk stream upload Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 07/31] client: backup writer: add chunk count and duration stats Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 08/31] client: backup writer: allow push uploading index and chunks Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 09/31] api: backup: add no-timestamp-check flag to backup endpoint Christian Ebner
2024-08-07 10:33   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-08-07 10:48     ` Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 10/31] server: sync: move skip info/reason to common sync module Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 11/31] server: sync: make skip reason message more genenric Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 12/31] server: sync: factor out namespace depth check into sync module Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 13/31] api types: define remote permissions and roles for push sync Christian Ebner
2024-08-07 10:45   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-08-07 11:21     ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-05 11:17       ` Christian Ebner
2024-09-05 12:12         ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-09-05 12:26           ` Christian Ebner
2024-09-05 12:42             ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2024-09-05 13:27               ` Christian Ebner
2024-09-05 14:06                 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 14/31] fix #3044: server: implement push support for sync operations Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 15/31] config: jobs: add `sync-push` config type for push sync jobs Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 16/31] api: push: implement endpoint for sync in push direction Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 17/31] api: sync: move sync job invocation to common module Christian Ebner
2024-08-07 10:51   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 18/31] api: sync jobs: expose optional `sync-direction` parameter Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 19/31] bin: manager: add datastore push cli command Christian Ebner
2024-08-07 10:55   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 20/31] ui: group filter: allow to set namespace for local datastore Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 21/31] ui: sync edit: source group filters based on sync direction Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 22/31] ui: add view with separate grids for pull and push sync jobs Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 23/31] ui: sync job: adapt edit window to be used for pull and push Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 24/31] ui: sync: pass sync-direction to allow removing push jobs Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 25/31] ui: sync view: do not use data model proxy for store Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 26/31] ui: sync view: set sync direction when invoking run task via api Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 27/31] datastore: move `BackupGroupDeleteStats` to api types Christian Ebner
2024-08-07 11:00   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2024-08-01  7:44 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 28/31] api types: implement api type for `BackupGroupDeleteStats` Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:44 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 29/31] datastore: increment deleted group counter when removing group Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:44 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 30/31] api: datastore/namespace: return backup groups delete stats on remove Christian Ebner
2024-08-01  7:44 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 31/31] server: sync job: use delete stats provided by the api Christian Ebner
2024-09-12 14:38 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH v2 proxmox-backup 00/31] fix #3044: push datastore to remote target Christian Ebner

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