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From: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Dominik Csapak <d.csapak@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 4/8] machine: correctly select pve machine version for non pinned windows guests
Date: Thu, 6 Mar 2025 15:14:50 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <f3efd44d-92ad-4374-a2d0-caf4b74c595c@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <19dfd0c6-acda-4df8-afa3-1955a4670572@proxmox.com>

Am 06.03.25 um 15:10 schrieb Fiona Ebner:
> Am 06.03.25 um 14:36 schrieb Dominik Csapak:
>> On 3/6/25 14:10, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>>> Am 06.03.25 um 11:44 schrieb Dominik Csapak:
>>>> diff --git a/PVE/QemuServer/Machine.pm b/PVE/QemuServer/Machine.pm
>>>> index f1acde8f..e3da8e21 100644
>>>> --- a/PVE/QemuServer/Machine.pm
>>>> +++ b/PVE/QemuServer/Machine.pm
>>>> @@ -237,14 +237,19 @@ sub get_vm_machine {
>>>>           if (PVE::QemuServer::Helpers::min_version($meta-
>>>>> {'creation-qemu'}, 9, 1)) {
>>>>               # need only major.minor
>>>>               ($base_version) = ($meta->{'creation-qemu'} =~ m/^(\d+.
>>>> \d+)/);
>>>> +            # append pve machine version if we have one
>>>> +            if (my $pvever = $meta->{'creation-pve-machine'}) {
>>>> +            $base_version .= "+pve$pvever"
>>>
>>> Since this is only the fallback handling for the rare edge case where no
>>> explicit machine version is set for a Windows guest, not sure if it's
>>> even worth doing this. I.e. can we just avoid the additional meta
>>> property and always use pve0 here? Did you intend any other use for the
>>> creation-pve-machine?
>>>
>>
>> I though the intention of the code was to pin the guest to that version
>> where it
>> was created. If we omit the machine version, this is not true anymore,
>> since I'd then create a windows vm with e.g. pc-q35-9.2+pve1 then set it
>> to q35, and would get pc-q35-9.2+pve0
> 
> Fair enough. There might be people manually changing windows guests to
> use the latest machine even if we don't recommend it or allow it in the
> UI. Still, it would just mean a pve machine version downgrade for
> subsequent boots, which also can happen if you offline migrate to a node
> that does not yet support the newest pve machine version.

No wait, if you set it to q35 it will mean "use the fallback" not "use
the latest". So that is not even a valid use case I had in mind. And we
can define the fallback to be just with pve0 always.


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  reply	other threads:[~2025-03-06 14:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-03-06 10:44 [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 0/8] disable S3/S4 power states by default Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 10:44 ` [pve-devel] [RFC PATCH qemu-server 1/8] tests: cfg2cmd: pin QEMU version Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 12:00   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 12:07     ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 12:43       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 10:44 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 2/8] config to command: add one '-global' option for each flag Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 12:13   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 12:15     ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 12:55       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-07  9:54         ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-07 10:00           ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-07 10:05             ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-07 10:14               ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 10:44 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 3/8] meta info: also add current pve-machine version Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 10:44 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 4/8] machine: correctly select pve machine version for non pinned windows guests Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 13:10   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 13:36     ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 14:10       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 14:14         ` Fiona Ebner [this message]
2025-03-06 14:15         ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 14:20           ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-07  9:55             ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 10:44 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 5/8] machine: incorporate pve machine version when pinning " Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 14:32   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-07  9:58     ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-07 10:06       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 10:44 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 6/8] machine: add S3/S4 power state properties Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 14:52   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-07 10:02     ` Dominik Csapak
2025-03-07 10:10       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 10:44 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 7/8] machine: bump pve machine version and reverse the s3/s4 defaults Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 15:04   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-06 10:44 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 8/8] tests: cfg2cmd: add test for windows machine pinning from meta info Dominik Csapak
2025-03-06 15:10   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-03-07 14:46 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 0/8] disable S3/S4 power states by default Dominik Csapak

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