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From: Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>
To: Philipp Hufnagl <p.hufnagl@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 1/3] fix #4315: jobs: modify GroupFilter so include/exclude is tracked
Date: Tue, 24 Oct 2023 12:43:10 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <d9a94b91-e13a-470e-87c9-a600d7cb9d10@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fb844e0d-26ad-4a7c-a8e5-5d99c29c7b01@proxmox.com>



On 10/24/23 11:54, Philipp Hufnagl wrote:
>> I would probably do it this way:
>>
>> no group-filters defined -> everything is included
>> only including filter    -> only groups matching the filter(s) are
>>                              included
>> only excluding filter    -> all groups but the matching ones are
>>                              included
> 
> I am not 100% sure how I feel about including all as a starting point
> for exclusion filter. While I understand the intuitive benefit, it
> also may make the process more error prone, since removing 1 include
> filter may change everything to include all. User might not think of that.
>  >> including and excluding  -> first compute included groups, then subtract
>>                              excluded ones
>>
> I considered this. The reason why I decided for only one list is
> because it enables user to make more sophisticated rules more easily.
> 
> Having 2 lists that get processed after each other can make it much
> harder to filter on a complex setup.

Do you have any examples in mind that would be more difficult to
represent?

If you keep it as it is right now, there should be a way to reorder
match rules in the UI, maybe similar to the boot-order drag'n'drop
thing in PVE.

> 
>> Ideally, this behavior should be
>>    a.) obvious in the GUI
>>    b.) documented in the docs, with a few concrete examples
>>
> I see what I can do about explaining this behaviour better in the GUI
> and how to extend the documentation.
> 
> 

-- 
- Lukas




  reply	other threads:[~2023-10-24 10:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 23+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-10-23 15:42 [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 0/3] fix #4315: datastore: Exclude entries from sync Philipp Hufnagl
2023-10-23 15:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 1/3] fix #4315: jobs: modify GroupFilter so include/exclude is tracked Philipp Hufnagl
2023-10-24  9:18   ` Lukas Wagner
2023-10-24  9:54     ` Philipp Hufnagl
2023-10-24 10:43       ` Lukas Wagner [this message]
2023-10-24 14:32         ` Philipp Hufnagl
2023-10-25 13:33           ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-10-25 15:07             ` Philipp Hufnagl
2023-10-25 15:45               ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-11-07  7:43                 ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-11-07  7:55                   ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-11-07  8:26                     ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2023-11-07  9:01                       ` Dominik Csapak
2023-11-07 11:10                         ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-11-07 11:07                       ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-10-23 15:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 2/3] ui: Show if Filter includes or excludes Philipp Hufnagl
2023-10-24 12:20   ` Lukas Wagner
2023-10-24 12:27   ` Lukas Wagner
2023-10-24 12:36     ` Philipp Hufnagl
2023-10-24 14:09       ` Philipp Hufnagl
2023-10-24 14:12         ` Lukas Wagner
2023-10-27  9:29           ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-10-23 15:43 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup 3/3] docs: document new include/exclude paramenter Philipp Hufnagl

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