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From: "Daniel Kral" <d.kral@proxmox.com>
To: "Fiona Ebner" <f.ebner@proxmox.com>, <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [RFC qemu-server 1/1] fix #7053: api: migrate: save and restore migration params for HA managed VMs
Date: Tue, 03 Mar 2026 10:08:51 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <DGT12DW0YABW.BI2D8PV13I17@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3a550b2b-8164-4bab-9915-89ba65ca2136@proxmox.com>

Thanks for the feedback, Fiona!

On Mon Mar 2, 2026 at 5:06 PM CET, Fiona Ebner wrote:
> Am 25.02.26 um 3:35 PM schrieb Daniel Kral:
>> If a HA-managed VM's migrate API endpoint is called from a web API or
>> CLI environment, it is first relayed to the HA Manager by queueing a
>> 'migrate' CRM command with `ha-manager migrate vm:$vmid $target_node`.
>> This command doesn't take any additional migration parameters though.
>> 
>> As soon as the HA Manager reads the CRM command in the next HA Manager
>> round, it passes the migration request - if valid - to the HA resource
>> state. This migration request is then picked up by the LRM, where the HA
>> resource is assigned to and calls the migrate_vm API endpoint, which
>> will then initial the VM migration.
>
> Nit: according to Wiktionary, 'initial' can't be used as a verb in this
> context [0]

Sorry, only a typo, should have been 'initiate' here ^^. Will fix that
for the v2.

>
>> 
>> As the migrate_vm API request is proxied to the node, where the HA
>> resource is assigned to, this allows the migrate parameters to stored
>> locally while the migration request is passed through the HA stack.
>> 
>
> I'm fine with this approach :)

Nice!

One design issue here I overlooked at first though is that if a HA
resource has dependent HA resources from a positive resource affinity
rule (which are shown to users either through the migration
preconditions and after initiating the migration), those will not have
the migration parameters passed down... I'm not sure yet if that is
wanted or not, as migrating them is only a side-effect and not all
parameters (e.g. `--with-conntrack-state`) are applicable to both guest
types of course.

If we want to go for passing them to the dependent HA resources, we
might as well fix this together with #6220 [0] as indexing the migration
parameters by the task rather than vmid would make it possible to store
and retrieve this information in/from a single place.

But it feels like this is more of a opt-in feature that can be added
later on rather than now as both behaviors seem valid for different use
cases.

>
>> Signed-off-by: Daniel Kral <d.kral@proxmox.com>
>> ---
>>  src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm | 54 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>>  1 file changed, 54 insertions(+)
>> 
>> diff --git a/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm b/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
>> index 1f0864f5..027896a3 100644
>> --- a/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
>> +++ b/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
>> @@ -3,6 +3,7 @@ package PVE::API2::Qemu;
>>  use strict;
>>  use warnings;
>>  use Cwd 'abs_path';
>> +use File::stat qw();
>>  use Net::SSLeay;
>>  use IO::Socket::IP;
>>  use IO::Socket::UNIX;
>> @@ -5367,6 +5368,52 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
>>      },
>>  });
>>  
>> +my sub migrate_params_filename {
>
> These helpers are closely connected to the API call, but I'm still
> wondering if it's not better to put them in the
> PVE::QemuMigrate::Helpers module.

Hm, even though they are likely only used for the API calls, I'd be
happy to move them there in a v2!

>
>> +    my ($vmid) = @_;
>> +    return "/run/qemu-server/$vmid.migrate_params";
>> +}
>> +
>> +my sub save_migrate_params {
>> +    my ($vmid, $params) = @_;
>> +
>> +    my $migrate_params_file = migrate_params_filename($vmid);
>> +
>> +    warn "existing migration parameters file for '$vmid' will be overwritten\n"
>> +        if -f $migrate_params_file;
>> +
>> +    PVE::Tools::file_set_contents($migrate_params_file, encode_json($params), 0640);
>
> Please use PVE::File for new usages

ACK, will do!

>
>> +}
>> +
>> +my sub try_to_restore_migrate_params {
>> +    my ($vmid, $params) = @_;
>> +
>> +    my $migrate_params_file = migrate_params_filename($vmid);
>> +    my @migrate_params_denylist = qw(node vmid target online force with-local-disks targetstorage);
>
> Nit: it's rather 'skip' than 'deny' and using a hash and avoiding the
> grep would be slightly simpler

Thanks, that sounds good, will do that!

>
>> +
>> +    if (-f $migrate_params_file) {
>> +        my $stat = File::stat::lstat($migrate_params_file);
>> +        # prevent that non-root users could write the migrate parameters file
>> +        my $has_correct_perms = $stat->uid == 0 && ($stat->mode & 037) == 0;
>
> Usually, we rely on the fact that the containing directory already has
> the correct permissions to prevent unprivileged users from writing files
> there and when you create the file, you also don't allow writes from
> other users, so it should already be fine. If we do go for this, then
> not having correct permissions should produce a dedicated warning.

I see, then it seems alright to not check the permissions here rather
pedantically after all as that would mean an already privileged user has
tampered with a rather short-lived file.

>
>> +
>> +        if (PVE::HA::Config::vm_is_ha_managed($vmid) && $has_correct_perms) {
>
> I'd prefer if we could check for the rpcenv type here too

ACK

>
>> +            my $migration_params = {};
>> +            eval {
>> +                my $data = PVE::Tools::file_get_contents($migrate_params_file);
>
> Please use PVE::File for new usages

ACK

>
>> +                $migration_params = decode_json($data) // {};
>> +            };
>
> Missing error handling here.

ACK

>
>> +            for my $key (keys %$migration_params) {
>> +                next if grep { $key eq $_ } @migrate_params_denylist;
>> +
>> +                $params->{$key} = $migration_params->{$key};
>> +            }
>> +        } else {
>> +            warn "remove orphan migration parameters file\n";
>> +        }
>> +
>> +        unlink $migrate_params_file;
>
> Nit: the return value could be checked while ignoring ENOENT, we have
> quite a few examples of this

Good catch, I'll do that in a v2!

>
>> +    }
>> +}
>> +
>>  __PACKAGE__->register_method({
>>      name => 'migrate_vm',
>>      path => '{vmid}/migrate',
>> @@ -5464,6 +5511,13 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
>>  
>>          my $vmid = extract_param($param, 'vmid');
>>  
>> +        if (PVE::HA::Config::vm_is_ha_managed($vmid) && $rpcenv->{type} ne 'ha') {
>> +            save_migrate_params($vmid, $param);
>> +        } else {
>> +            # always try to restore to remove oprhaned migration parameters files
>
> Typo: 'oprhaned'

ACK

>
>> +            try_to_restore_migrate_params($vmid, $param);
>
> I'd prefer if the naming would mention that it can only have an effect
> for HA, maybe restore_migrate_params_for_ha()?
>
> Not sure if a dedicated helper for removing makes sense to better
> organize it? Then we could call the restore one only if ha_managed and
> rpcenv type eq 'ha'

I'll clean that up in a v2!

>
>> +        }
>> +
>>          raise_param_exc({ force => "Only root may use this option." })
>>              if $param->{force} && $authuser ne 'root@pam';
>>  

[0] https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6220




      reply	other threads:[~2026-03-03  9:07 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 4+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2026-02-25 14:35 [RFC PATCH-SERIES qemu-server 0/1] fix #7053: allow setting additional HA migration parameters Daniel Kral
2026-02-25 14:35 ` [RFC qemu-server 1/1] fix #7053: api: migrate: save and restore migration params for HA managed VMs Daniel Kral
2026-03-02 16:06   ` Fiona Ebner
2026-03-03  9:08     ` Daniel Kral [this message]

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