From: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
To: Thomas Lamprecht <t.lamprecht@proxmox.com>, pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 18/22] datastore: add thresholds notification callback on datastore lookup
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2026 10:22:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <7eb684ef-9dc3-43ac-8aff-2ca7194becd8@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <fe743865-b62c-47c5-843a-b2705e450292@proxmox.com>
On 3/30/26 10:18 PM, Thomas Lamprecht wrote:
> Am 19.03.26 um 10:41 schrieb Christian Ebner:
>> Pass in the callback to be executed when a datastore threshold value
>> exceeds its set limit. This callback is then callable by the s3
>> client request counters implementation, currently the only component
>> defining thresholds.
>>
>> When a threshold is exceeded, the notification is generated by the
>> callback and queued for being send.
>>
>> Signed-off-by: Christian Ebner <c.ebner@proxmox.com>
>> ---
>> pbs-datastore/src/datastore.rs | 36 ++++++++++++++++++++++++----
>> pbs-datastore/src/snapshot_reader.rs | 1 +
>> src/tools/mod.rs | 9 ++++++-
>> 3 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-)
>>
>> diff --git a/pbs-datastore/src/datastore.rs b/pbs-datastore/src/datastore.rs
> [...]
>> @@ -710,6 +728,16 @@ impl DataStore {
>> let mut request_counters = Self::request_counters(&config, &backend_config)?;
>>
>> Self::update_notification_thresholds(&mut request_counters, &config)?;
>> + request_counters.set_thresholds_exceeded_callback(
>> + config.name,
>> + Box::new(move |label, counter_id, threshold, value| {
>> + thresholds_exceeded_callback.map(|cb| {
>> + if let Err(err) = cb(label, counter_id, threshold, value) {
>> + log::error!("failed to send notification: {err:?}");
>> + }
>> + });
>> + }),
>> + );
>>
>> (Some(cache), Some(Arc::new(request_counters)))
>> } else {
>
>
>> diff --git a/src/tools/mod.rs b/src/tools/mod.rs
> [...]
>> @@ -192,5 +193,11 @@ pub(crate) fn backup_info_to_snapshot_list_item(
>> /// Lookup the datastore by name with given operation.
>> #[inline(always)]
>> pub fn lookup_with<'a>(name: &'a str, operation: Operation) -> DataStoreLookup<'a> {
>> - DataStoreLookup::with(name, operation)
>> + DataStoreLookup::with(
>> + name,
>> + operation,
>> + Arc::new(Some(
>> + crate::server::notifications::send_datastore_threshold_exceeded,
>
> But in the s3-client's add_download_traffic we _always_ trigger this threshold,
> and this callback _always_ sends a notification. This seems like allowing
> for a notification storm?
That would be bad and was not the intention here.
The intention was for the notification callback to be executed only once
when the threshold barrier is being passed, not for all the subsequent
traffic exceeding. That is, until the counters are reset or the
thresholds adapted. Will double check!
>
> I do not recall any generic debouncing or rate limit logic in the notification
> stack, or am I mistaken?
No, I'm also not aware of any such logic being in place
>
> Because if not, then we really should get some basic rate limiting done here,
> like only trigger a notification if the previous one was at least X minutes
> ago.
Yes, I agree that this should be implemented.
As discussed off-list, using the token bucket filter to achieve this
might be a good option, will have a look on how to achieve this and send
a new version, thanks!
>
> As on a big (e.g. initial) sync with a underestimated low limit chosen this
> could cause millions of notifications - having dealt with some software going
> "nuts" w.r.t. mails only a few days ago, I really would like to avoid this,
> as it can be more than annoying (e.g., mail server might buckle up on that
> amount of mails in the queue).
>
> But this - if it really does apply and I did not just overlook something -
> seems to be the only bigger issue to me. And FWIW, we can also follow up on
> this, e.g. I could apply the proxmox parts already.
I feel like it make sense to hold off until the next version, in case
the threshold check logic needs further adaption.
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2026-03-31 8:21 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2026-03-19 9:40 [PATCH proxmox{,-backup} v6 00/34] partially fix #6563: add s3 counter for statistics and notifications Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 01/12] tree-wide: fix formatting issue via cargo fmt Christian Ebner
2026-03-31 8:01 ` Hannes Laimer
2026-03-31 8:12 ` Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 02/12] s3-client: add persistent shared request counters for client Christian Ebner
2026-03-31 9:26 ` Hannes Laimer
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 03/12] s3-client: add counters for upload/download traffic Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 04/12] s3-client: account for upload traffic on successful request sending Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 05/12] s3-client: account for downloaded bytes in incoming response body Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 06/12] s3-client: request counters: periodically persist counters to file Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 07/12] s3-client: sync flush request counters on client instance drop Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 08/12] s3-client: api-types: define request counter thresholds Christian Ebner
2026-03-31 9:10 ` Hannes Laimer
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 09/12] s3-client: implement request counter threshold and exceeding callback Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 10/12] pbs-api-types: define api type for s3 request statistics Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 11/12] pbs-api-types: add notification thresholds to datastore config Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox v6 12/12] pbs-api-types: add reset schedule for notification threshold counters Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 01/22] metrics: split common module imports into individual use statements Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 02/22] ui: improve variable name indirectly fixing typo Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 03/22] notifications: template data: fix typos in docstrings Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 04/22] datastore: collect request statistics for s3 backed datastores Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 05/22] datastore: expose request counters " Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 06/22] api: s3: add endpoint to reset s3 request counters Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 07/22] bin: s3: expose request counter reset method as cli command Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 08/22] ui: datastore summary: move store to be part of summary panel Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 09/22] ui: expose s3 request counter statistics in the datastore summary Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 10/22] metrics: collect s3 datastore statistics as rrd metrics Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 11/22] api: admin: expose s3 statistics in datastore rrd data Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 12/22] partially fix #6563: ui: expose s3 rrd charts in datastore summary Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 13/22] datastore: refactor datastore lookup parameters into dedicated type Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 14/22] api: config: update notification thresholds for config and counters Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 15/22] ui: utils: add helper to render notification threshold property string Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 16/22] ui: add notification thresholds edit window Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 17/22] notification: define templates and template data for thresholds Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 18/22] datastore: add thresholds notification callback on datastore lookup Christian Ebner
2026-03-30 20:19 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2026-03-31 8:22 ` Christian Ebner [this message]
2026-04-01 11:13 ` Christian Ebner
2026-03-31 9:36 ` Hannes Laimer
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 19/22] api/ui: notifications: add 'thresholds' as notification type value Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 20/22] api: config: allow counter reset schedule editing Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:40 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 21/22] ui: expose counter reset schedule edit window Christian Ebner
2026-03-19 9:41 ` [PATCH proxmox-backup v6 22/22] bin: proxy: periodically schedule counter reset task Christian Ebner
2026-03-31 10:16 ` [PATCH proxmox{,-backup} v6 00/34] partially fix #6563: add s3 counter for statistics and notifications Hannes Laimer
2026-04-01 13:51 ` superseded: " Christian Ebner
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