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From: Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>
To: Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 many 00/11] notifications: add SMTP endpoint
Date: Thu, 9 Nov 2023 11:23:47 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <79543f3b-51ad-48a2-8a04-b5404ba1ed28@proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <755369602.1858.1699458751179@webmail.proxmox.com>

On 11/8/23 16:52, Dietmar Maurer wrote:
>> This patch series adds support for a new notification endpoint type,
>> smtp. As the name suggests, this new endpoint allows PVE to talk
>> to SMTP server directly, without using the system's MTA (postfix).
> 
> Isn't this totally unreliable? What if the server responds with a
> temporary error code? (An MTA retries several times).

The notification system has no mechanism yet for queuing/retries,
so yes, at the moment a SMTP endpoint would indeed be less reliable than 
a 'sendmail' endpoint. I'm not sure though if I would call it
'totally unreliable'.
The same thing applies for gotify/webhook endpoints - if the network or 
Gotify server is down, a notification cannot be sent.
A queuing/retry mechanism could be added at some point, but this would 
require some bigger changes, as the notification system is completely 
stateless right now.

-- 
- Lukas




  reply	other threads:[~2023-11-09 10:23 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2023-11-08 15:39 Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:39 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 debcargo-conf 01/11] cherry-pick chumsky 0.9.2 from debian unstable Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:39 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 debcargo-conf 02/11] update lettre to 0.11.1 Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:39 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 proxmox 03/11] sys: email: add `forward` Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:39 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 proxmox 04/11] notify: add mechanisms for email message forwarding Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:39 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 proxmox 05/11] notify: add 'smtp' endpoint Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:40 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 proxmox 06/11] notify: add api for smtp endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:40 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 proxmox-perl-rs 07/11] notify: add bindings for smtp API calls Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:40 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-manager 08/11] notify: add API routes for smtp endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:40 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 proxmox-widget-toolkit 09/11] panel: notification: add gui for SMTP endpoints Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:40 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-docs 10/11] notifications: document " Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:40 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-docs 11/11] notifications: document 'comment' option for targets/matchers Lukas Wagner
2023-11-08 15:52 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 many 00/11] notifications: add SMTP endpoint Dietmar Maurer
2023-11-09 10:23   ` Lukas Wagner [this message]
2023-11-09 12:16     ` Dietmar Maurer
2023-11-09 12:34       ` Lukas Wagner
2023-11-09 13:10         ` Thomas Lamprecht
2023-11-09 15:35           ` Dietmar Maurer

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