From: Dietmar Maurer <dietmar@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox Backup Server (beta)
Date: Fri, 10 Jul 2020 17:31:26 +0200 (CEST) [thread overview]
Message-ID: <39487713.486.1594395087264@webmail.proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <594092ce-e65d-f9b4-a66c-84ac001f9df9@elettra.eu>
> On 10/07/20 15:41, Dietmar Maurer wrote:
> >> Are you planning to support also CEPH (or other distributed file
> >> systems) as destination storage backend?
> >
> > It is already possible to put the datastore a a mounted cephfs, or
> > anything you can mount on the host.
>
> Is this "mount" managed by PBS or you have to "manually" mount it
> outside PBS?
Not sure what kind of management you need for that? Usually people
mount filesystems using /etc/fstab or by creating systemd mount units.
> > But this means that you copy data over the network multiple times,
> > so this is not the best option performance wise...
>
> True, PBS will act as a gateway to the backing storage cluster, but the
> data will be only re-routed to the final destination (in this case and
> OSD) not copied over (putting aside the CEPH replication policy).
That is probably a very simplistic view of things. It involves copying data
multiple times, so I will affect performance by sure.
Note: We take about huge amounts of data.
> So
> performance wise you are limited by the bandwidth of the PBS network
> interfaces (as you will be for a local network storage server) and to
> the speed of the backing CEPH cluster. Maybe you will loose something on
> raw performance (but depending on the CEPH cluster you could gain also
> something) but you will gain the ability of "easily" expandable storage
> space and no single point of failure.
Sure, that's true. Would be interesting to get some performance stats for
such setup...
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-07-10 15:32 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 53+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-07-10 10:56 [pve-devel] " Martin Maurer
2020-07-10 10:56 ` [PVE-User] " Martin Maurer
2020-07-10 10:56 ` [pbs-devel] " Martin Maurer
2020-07-10 11:42 ` [PVE-User] " Roland
2020-07-10 12:09 ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-10 12:24 ` Roland
2020-07-10 13:43 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 14:06 ` Roland
2020-07-10 14:15 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 14:46 ` Roland
2020-07-10 17:31 ` Roland
2020-07-10 13:44 ` Dietmar Maurer
[not found] ` <mailman.77.1594381090.12071.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
2020-07-10 11:45 ` Dietmar Maurer
[not found] ` <a92c7f1d-f492-2d43-00b9-15bdb0e805ec@binovo.es>
2020-07-10 13:50 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 12:03 ` Lindsay Mathieson
2020-07-10 12:13 ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-10 15:41 ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-11 11:03 ` mj
2020-07-11 11:38 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-11 13:34 ` mj
2020-07-11 13:47 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-11 14:40 ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-14 14:30 ` Alexandre DERUMIER
2020-07-14 15:52 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-14 21:17 ` Alexandre DERUMIER
2020-07-15 4:52 ` Thomas Lamprecht
[not found] ` <176392164.4390.1594849016963.JavaMail.zimbra@numberall.com>
2020-07-16 7:33 ` Thomas Lamprecht
[not found] ` <mailman.204.1594849027.12071.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
2020-07-16 10:17 ` Wolfgang Bumiller
2020-07-16 14:36 ` Mark Schouten
2020-07-16 17:04 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-16 13:03 ` Tom Weber
2020-07-17 7:31 ` Fabian Grünbichler
2020-07-17 13:23 ` Tom Weber
2020-07-17 17:43 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-18 14:59 ` Tom Weber
2020-07-18 18:07 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 12:45 ` Iztok Gregori
2020-07-10 13:41 ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-07-10 15:20 ` Iztok Gregori
2020-07-10 15:31 ` Dietmar Maurer [this message]
2020-07-10 16:29 ` Iztok Gregori
2020-07-10 16:46 ` Dietmar Maurer
[not found] ` <a1e5f8dd-efd5-f8e2-50c1-683d42b0f61b@truelite.it>
2020-07-10 14:23 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-07-10 15:59 ` Lindsay Mathieson
[not found] ` <mailman.86.1594396120.12071.pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>
2020-07-10 16:32 ` Dietmar Maurer
2020-10-06 13:12 ` [pve-devel] " Lee Lists
2020-10-06 13:12 ` Lee Lists
2020-10-08 8:21 ` [pve-devel] " Thomas Lamprecht
2020-10-08 8:21 ` Thomas Lamprecht
2020-10-08 8:21 ` [pbs-devel] " Thomas Lamprecht
2020-10-09 9:27 ` [pve-devel] " Lee Lists
2020-10-09 9:27 ` Lee Lists
2020-10-09 12:10 Lee Lists
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