Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH manager v3 1/3] ui: backup job edit: move notification related settings to separate tab

[Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>]

On  2025-06-24 14:00, Lukas Wagner wrote:
> The notification settings in the 'General' tab were unfortunately a
> source of regular confusion for many people. This was primarily due to
> the behavior of the 'notification mode'. The notification mode can
> one of the following:
>   - notification-system: Emit a notification event to the global
>     notification system, where it can be matched on by notification
>     matchers and then sent to one or more targets.
>   - legacy-sendmail: Old-style notifications, where one can directly
>     enter some email address. The system uses 'sendmail' to
>     send the notification to the specified address, circumventing
>     the regular notification stack.
>   - auto: Use legacy-sendmail if an email is entered and the
>     notification system if not
> 
> The 'auto' mode was originally intended to ease migration between the
> old and the new system. From a user's perspective however, 'auto' is
> quite surprising and unintuitive. The UI preselected 'auto' as a
> default, which would, as explained above, favor the new notification
> stack with the 'mailto' field empty. However, the UI would still invite
> the user to enter their email address, which would then entail the
> 'legacy-sendmail' mode. Some users were led to believe that this email
> address would then be used for a configured email target of the new
> notification stack. As a consequence, 'auto' is now completely hidden in
> the UI.
> 
> In the new 'Notifications' tab one can now choose between
>   ( ) Use global notification settings
>   (x) Use sendmail to send an email
>       Recipients: [              ]
>       When:       [Always/On Error]
> 
> 'Recipients' and 'When' are disabled if the first radio box is selected.
> 
> The new tab can later also be used to house other controls. For example,
> we could display all matchers that could potentially match this backup
> job, or maybe even allow to create a new matcher with a pre-populated
> match-field rule.
> 
> The term 'Notification System' is altogether from the UI. It is not
> necessarily clear to a user that this refers to the settings in
> Datacenter > Notifications.
> 
> Signed-off-by: Lukas Wagner <l.wagner@proxmox.com>
> Tested-by: Michael Köppl <m.koeppl@proxmox.com>
> Reviewed-by: Michael Köppl <m.koeppl@proxmox.com>

ping - still applies on latest master

-- 
- Lukas



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