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* [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server] snapshot: prohibit live snapshot (remove) of qcow2 TPM drive on storage with snapshot-as-volume-chain
@ 2025-11-19 11:59 Fiona Ebner
  2025-11-19 12:07 ` Fabian Grünbichler
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Fiona Ebner @ 2025-11-19 11:59 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: pve-devel

QSD and swtpm currently are not prepared for dealing with
blockdev-replace and rename operations that snapshot or snapshot
remove operations with a snapshot-as-volume-chain storage entail.

Reported-by: Friedrich Weber <f.weber@proxmox.com>
Signed-off-by: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
---
 src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm | 52 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
 1 file changed, 52 insertions(+)

diff --git a/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm b/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
index 5cdba4bb..c580bf63 100644
--- a/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
+++ b/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
@@ -726,6 +726,36 @@ my $check_cpu_model_access = sub {
     }
 };
 
+# TODO switch to doing internal snapshots only for TPM? Need a way to tell the storage. Also needs
+# handling for pre-existing as-volume-chain snapshots then. Or is there a way to make QSD+swtpm
+# compatible with using volume-chain live?
+my sub assert_tpm_snapshot_compat {
+    my ($vmid, $conf, $op, $snap_conf) = @_;
+
+    return if !$conf->{tpmstate0};
+    return if !PVE::QemuServer::Helpers::vm_running_locally($vmid);
+
+    my $drive = PVE::QemuServer::Drive::parse_drive('tpmstate0', $conf->{tpmstate0});
+    my $volid = $drive->{file};
+    my $storecfg = PVE::Storage::config();
+
+    if ($snap_conf) {
+        return if !$snap_conf->{tpmstate0};
+        my $snap_drive = PVE::QemuServer::Drive::parse_drive('tpmstate0', $snap_conf->{tpmstate0});
+        return if $volid ne $snap_drive->{file};
+    }
+
+    my $format = PVE::QemuServer::Drive::checked_volume_format($storecfg, $volid);
+    my ($storeid) = PVE::Storage::parse_volume_id($volid, 1);
+    if ($storeid && $format eq 'qcow2') {
+        my $scfg = PVE::Storage::storage_config($storecfg, $storeid);
+        if ($scfg && $scfg->{'snapshot-as-volume-chain'}) {
+            die "snapshot $op of TPM state '$volid' on storage with 'snapshot-as-volume-chain' is"
+                . " not yet supported while the VM is running.\n";
+        }
+    }
+}
+
 my $cpuoptions = {
     'cores' => 1,
     'cpu' => 1,
@@ -6040,6 +6070,14 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
             0);
 
         my $realcmd = sub {
+            PVE::QemuConfig->lock_config(
+                $vmid,
+                sub {
+                    my $conf = PVE::QemuConfig->load_config($vmid);
+                    assert_tpm_snapshot_compat($vmid, $conf, 'create');
+                },
+            );
+
             PVE::Cluster::log_msg('info', $authuser, "snapshot VM $vmid: $snapname");
             PVE::QemuConfig->snapshot_create(
                 $vmid, $snapname, $param->{vmstate}, $param->{description},
@@ -6291,6 +6329,20 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
         my $lock_obtained;
         my $do_delete = sub {
             $lock_obtained = 1;
+
+            PVE::QemuConfig->lock_config(
+                $vmid,
+                sub {
+                    my $conf = PVE::QemuConfig->load_config($vmid);
+                    assert_tpm_snapshot_compat(
+                        $vmid,
+                        $conf,
+                        'delete',
+                        $conf->{snapshots}->{$snapname},
+                    );
+                },
+            );
+
             PVE::Cluster::log_msg('info', $authuser, "delete snapshot VM $vmid: $snapname");
             PVE::QemuConfig->snapshot_delete($vmid, $snapname, $param->{force});
         };
-- 
2.47.3



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* Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server] snapshot: prohibit live snapshot (remove) of qcow2 TPM drive on storage with snapshot-as-volume-chain
  2025-11-19 11:59 [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server] snapshot: prohibit live snapshot (remove) of qcow2 TPM drive on storage with snapshot-as-volume-chain Fiona Ebner
@ 2025-11-19 12:07 ` Fabian Grünbichler
  2025-11-19 12:34   ` Fiona Ebner
  0 siblings, 1 reply; 3+ messages in thread
From: Fabian Grünbichler @ 2025-11-19 12:07 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Proxmox VE development discussion

On November 19, 2025 12:59 pm, Fiona Ebner wrote:
> QSD and swtpm currently are not prepared for dealing with
> blockdev-replace and rename operations that snapshot or snapshot
> remove operations with a snapshot-as-volume-chain storage entail.
> 
> Reported-by: Friedrich Weber <f.weber@proxmox.com>
> Signed-off-by: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>

Reviewed-by: Fabian Grünbichler <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>

unfortunate, but we have to live with this limitation for now..

> ---
>  src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm | 52 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
>  1 file changed, 52 insertions(+)
> 
> diff --git a/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm b/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
> index 5cdba4bb..c580bf63 100644
> --- a/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
> +++ b/src/PVE/API2/Qemu.pm
> @@ -726,6 +726,36 @@ my $check_cpu_model_access = sub {
>      }
>  };
>  
> +# TODO switch to doing internal snapshots only for TPM? Need a way to tell the storage. Also needs
> +# handling for pre-existing as-volume-chain snapshots then. Or is there a way to make QSD+swtpm
> +# compatible with using volume-chain live?
> +my sub assert_tpm_snapshot_compat {
> +    my ($vmid, $conf, $op, $snap_conf) = @_;
> +
> +    return if !$conf->{tpmstate0};
> +    return if !PVE::QemuServer::Helpers::vm_running_locally($vmid);
> +
> +    my $drive = PVE::QemuServer::Drive::parse_drive('tpmstate0', $conf->{tpmstate0});
> +    my $volid = $drive->{file};
> +    my $storecfg = PVE::Storage::config();
> +
> +    if ($snap_conf) {
> +        return if !$snap_conf->{tpmstate0};
> +        my $snap_drive = PVE::QemuServer::Drive::parse_drive('tpmstate0', $snap_conf->{tpmstate0});
> +        return if $volid ne $snap_drive->{file};
> +    }
> +
> +    my $format = PVE::QemuServer::Drive::checked_volume_format($storecfg, $volid);
> +    my ($storeid) = PVE::Storage::parse_volume_id($volid, 1);
> +    if ($storeid && $format eq 'qcow2') {
> +        my $scfg = PVE::Storage::storage_config($storecfg, $storeid);
> +        if ($scfg && $scfg->{'snapshot-as-volume-chain'}) {
> +            die "snapshot $op of TPM state '$volid' on storage with 'snapshot-as-volume-chain' is"
> +                . " not yet supported while the VM is running.\n";
> +        }
> +    }
> +}
> +
>  my $cpuoptions = {
>      'cores' => 1,
>      'cpu' => 1,
> @@ -6040,6 +6070,14 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
>              0);
>  
>          my $realcmd = sub {
> +            PVE::QemuConfig->lock_config(
> +                $vmid,
> +                sub {
> +                    my $conf = PVE::QemuConfig->load_config($vmid);
> +                    assert_tpm_snapshot_compat($vmid, $conf, 'create');
> +                },
> +            );
> +
>              PVE::Cluster::log_msg('info', $authuser, "snapshot VM $vmid: $snapname");
>              PVE::QemuConfig->snapshot_create(
>                  $vmid, $snapname, $param->{vmstate}, $param->{description},
> @@ -6291,6 +6329,20 @@ __PACKAGE__->register_method({
>          my $lock_obtained;
>          my $do_delete = sub {
>              $lock_obtained = 1;
> +
> +            PVE::QemuConfig->lock_config(
> +                $vmid,
> +                sub {
> +                    my $conf = PVE::QemuConfig->load_config($vmid);
> +                    assert_tpm_snapshot_compat(
> +                        $vmid,
> +                        $conf,
> +                        'delete',
> +                        $conf->{snapshots}->{$snapname},
> +                    );
> +                },
> +            );
> +
>              PVE::Cluster::log_msg('info', $authuser, "delete snapshot VM $vmid: $snapname");
>              PVE::QemuConfig->snapshot_delete($vmid, $snapname, $param->{force});
>          };
> -- 
> 2.47.3
> 
> 
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* Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server] snapshot: prohibit live snapshot (remove) of qcow2 TPM drive on storage with snapshot-as-volume-chain
  2025-11-19 12:07 ` Fabian Grünbichler
@ 2025-11-19 12:34   ` Fiona Ebner
  0 siblings, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Fiona Ebner @ 2025-11-19 12:34 UTC (permalink / raw)
  To: Proxmox VE development discussion, Fabian Grünbichler

Am 19.11.25 um 1:06 PM schrieb Fabian Grünbichler:
> On November 19, 2025 12:59 pm, Fiona Ebner wrote:
>> QSD and swtpm currently are not prepared for dealing with
>> blockdev-replace and rename operations that snapshot or snapshot
>> remove operations with a snapshot-as-volume-chain storage entail.
>>
>> Reported-by: Friedrich Weber <f.weber@proxmox.com>
>> Signed-off-by: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>
> 
> Reviewed-by: Fabian Grünbichler <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
> 
> unfortunate, but we have to live with this limitation for now..

I'll look into sending the 'blockdev-replace', etc. QMP commands to QSD
instead of QEMU for TPM. We'll see if it says something like "can't
replace, because active export", but might just require some additional
implementation in QSD then. I don't see a fundamental limitation (yet).


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