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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Proxmox Backup Server development discussion
	<pbs-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v2 0/2] fix #6750: fix possible deadlock for s3 backed datastore backups
Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2025 12:26:59 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1758881806.phfyvl6gtf.astroid@yuna.none> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20250926084221.201116-1-c.ebner@proxmox.com>

On September 26, 2025 10:42 am, Christian Ebner wrote:
> These patches aim to fix a deadlock which can occur during backup
> jobs to datastores backed by S3 backend. The deadlock most likely is
> caused by the mutex guard for the backup shared state being held
> while entering the tokio::task::block_in_place context and executing
> async code, which however can lead to deadlocks as described in [0].
> 
> Therefore, these patches avoid holding the mutex guard for the shared
> backup state while performing the s3 backend operations, by
> prematurely dropping it. To avoid inconsistencies, introduce flags
> to keep track of the index writers closing state and add a transient
> `Finishing` state to be entered during manifest updates.
> 
> Changes since version 1 (thanks @Fabian):
> - Use the shared backup state's writers in addition with a closed flag
>   instead of counting active backend operations.
> - Replace finished flag with BackupState enum to introduce the new,
>   transient `Finishing` state to be entered during manifest updates.
> - Add missing checks and refactor code to the now mutable reference when
>   accessing the shared backup state in the respective close calls.

this looks a lot better!

but I think we both missed one more problematic code path:

- env.remove_backup() (sync)
-- locks state
-- calls pbs_datastore::datastore::remove_backup() (sync)
--- calls pbs_datastore::backup_info::BackupDir::destroy (sync)
---- calls proxmox_async_runtime::block_on(s3_client.delete_objects_by_prefix)

this one is only called in mod.rs *after* the backup session processing
is completed, I am not even sure why we call into the env there (all we
do with it is set the state to finished, but that has no effect at that
point anymore AFAICT?)

maybe we should just move the remove_backup fn from the env to mod.rs
and drop the state update from it?

> 
> 
> [0] https://docs.rs/tokio/latest/tokio/sync/struct.Mutex.html#which-kind-of-mutex-should-you-use
> 
> Link to the bugtracker issue:
> https://bugzilla.proxmox.com/show_bug.cgi?id=6750
> 
> Another report in the community forum:
> https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/171422/
> 
> proxmox-backup:
> 
> Christian Ebner (2):
>   fix #6750: api: avoid possible deadlock on datastores with s3 backend
>   api: backup: never hold mutex guard when doing manifest update
> 
>  src/api2/backup/environment.rs | 169 +++++++++++++++++++++++----------
>  1 file changed, 120 insertions(+), 49 deletions(-)
> 
> 
> Summary over all repositories:
>   1 files changed, 120 insertions(+), 49 deletions(-)
> 
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-09-26 10:27 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 6+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2025-09-26  8:42 Christian Ebner
2025-09-26  8:42 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v2 1/2] fix #6750: api: avoid possible deadlock on datastores with s3 backend Christian Ebner
2025-09-26  8:42 ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v2 2/2] api: backup: never hold mutex guard when doing manifest update Christian Ebner
2025-09-26 10:26 ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2025-09-26 10:35   ` [pbs-devel] [PATCH proxmox-backup v2 0/2] fix #6750: fix possible deadlock for s3 backed datastore backups Christian Ebner
2025-09-26 10:45     ` Fabian Grünbichler

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