Re: [pve-devel] [RFC qemu] fix #3231+#3631: PVE backup: fail backup rather than guest write when backup target cannot be reached or is too slow

["Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>]

Quoting Fiona Ebner (2024-06-10 14:59:35)
> A long-standing issue with VM backups in Proxmox VE is that a slow or
> unreachable target would lead to a copy-before-write (cbw) operation
> to break the guest write rather than abort the backup. This is
> unexpected to users and the will end up without a successful backup
> and without a working guest in such cases. This series prevents the
> latter by changing the behavior to fail the backup instead of the
> guest write.
> 
> This is done by re-using the already existing 'on-cbw-error' and
> 'cbw-timeout' options that are already used for fleecing and having
> regular backup also check for the cbw's snapshot_error (unfortunately
> this becomes a bit of a misnomer). If a given copy-before-write
> operation cannot complete within 45 seconds, it's extremely likely
> that aborting the backup is the better choice than keeping the guest
> IO blocked.
> 
> Just checking for the error already makes it work (i.e. without the
> last two patches), but backup can only check the error at the end. To
> abort backup immediately, an error callback for the copy-before-write
> node is introduced. A potential alternative would be give the
> block-copy operation a pointer to the snapshot_error and have it check
> it during its operation, but my initial attempt failed. Likely I
> missed adapting certain logic that checks for whether the block-copy
> operation failed and it's questionable if this approach would be
> cleaner. An error callback is nice and explicit.
> 
> Note for testers: if e.g. the PBS is compeletly unreachable, the
> backup job still will need to wait until the in-flight request is
> aborted after 15 minutes. But the guest writes should be fast again.
> 
> Should it really be required to make the option more flexible, i.e.
> allow users to specify a custom timeout or go back to the old behavior
> then the 'backup' QMP call can be extended with those parameters.
> 
> Unfortunately, this is a non-trivial amount of code to make it work,
> but there is quite a bit of boilerplate and some comments, so
> hopefully the logic is straight-forward enough.

this sentence here made me except a lot worse ;) code seems very
straight-forward and clean, two small comments inline. not sure whether we want
to entangle this with 9.0, but I think this could be applied soonish after some
more in-depth testing, since it should solve a pretty big pain point user
consistenly run into..

I am sure we will have users clamoring for a configurable timeout soon after
though ;)

> 
> The first patch can be applied regardless of whether we want to go
> with this or not.
> 
> 
> Fiona Ebner (7):
>   PVE backup: fleecing: properly set minimum cluster size
>   block/copy-before-write: allow passing additional options for
>     bdrv_cbw_append()
>   block/backup: allow passing additional options for copy-before-write
>     upon job creation
>   block/backup: make cbw error also fail backup that does not use
>     fleecing
>   fix #3231+#3631: PVE backup: add timeout for copy-before-write
>     operations and fail backup instead of guest writes
>   block/copy-before-write: allow specifying error callback
>   block/backup: set callback for cbw errors
> 
>  block/backup.c                         | 57 +++++++++++++++++++++++++-
>  block/copy-before-write.c              | 41 +++++++++++++++---
>  block/copy-before-write.h              |  9 +++-
>  block/replication.c                    |  2 +-
>  blockdev.c                             |  2 +-
>  include/block/block_int-global-state.h |  2 +
>  pve-backup.c                           | 13 +++++-
>  7 files changed, 115 insertions(+), 11 deletions(-)
> 
> -- 
> 2.39.2
> 
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