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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: "DERUMIER, Alexandre" <alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>,
	"pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com" <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 11/11] qcow2: add external snapshot support
Date: Fri, 4 Apr 2025 13:37:06 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <137183061.6481.1743766626183@webmail.proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3e516016a970e52e5a1014dbcd6cf9507581da74.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>


> DERUMIER, Alexandre <alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com> hat am 04.04.2025 13:31 CEST geschrieben:
> Hi Fabian,
> 
> >>the first one is the renaming of a blockdev while it is used, which
> >>is currently done like this:
> >>-- "link" snapshot path to make it available under old and new name
> >>-- handle blockdev additions/reopening/backing-file updates/deletions
> >>on the qemu layer
> >>-- remove old snapshot path link
> >>-- if LVM, rename actual volume (for non-LVM, linking followed by
> >>unlinking the source is effectively a rename already)
> 
> >>I wonder whether that couldn't be made more straight-forward by doing
> >>-- rename snapshot volume/image (qemu must already have the old name
> >>open anyway and should be able to continue using it)
> >>-- do blockdev additions/reopening/backing-file updates/deletions on
> >>the qemu layer
> 
> >>or is there an issue/check in qemu somewhere that prevents this
> >>approach? if not, we could just introduce a "volume_snapshot_rename"
> >>or extend rename_volume with a snapshot parameter..
> 
> I have done tests this last 2 days, and it's working fine indeed. (I
> have done test with fio running during the snapshot rename/reopen, no
> problem).
> 
> so I'm using Storage::rename_volume now with snapshot param
> 
> 
> >>the second thing that happens is deleting a snapshot volume/path,
> >>without deleting the whole snapshot.. that one we could easily
> >>support by extending volume_snapshot_delete by extending the $running
> >>parameter (e.g., passing "2") or adding a new one to signify that all
> >>the housekeeping was already done, and just the actual snapshot
> >>volume should be deleted. this shouldn't be an issue provided all
> >>such calls are guarded by first checking that we are using external
> >>snapshots..
> 
> I have reused vdisk_free for this one, as I'm seeing a comment about
> $running deprecation in Storage.pm
> 
> # FIXME PVE 8.x remove $running parameter (needs APIAGE reset)
> sub volume_snapshot_delete {
>     my ($cfg, $volid, $snap, $running) = @_;
> 
> 
> vdisk_free have also a cluster_lock_storage, so for lvm , I think it's
> better.
> 
> (I have introduce a $snap param to vdisk_free, to only delete the
> specific snapshot, and not the whole chain)

vdisk_free is definitely wrong - you are not deleting a vdisk, just a
snapshot.. I think this might be an argument for keeping $running ;)

you can call the lock inside volume_snapshot_delete, right?


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  parent reply	other threads:[~2025-04-04 11:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 35+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250311102905.2680524-1-alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-qemu 1/1] add block-commit-replaces option patch Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 01/11] blockdev: cmdline: convert drive to blockdev syntax Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-storage 1/5] qcow2: add external snapshot support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-04-01 13:50   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-02  8:01     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <0e2cd118f35aa8d4c410d362fea1a1b366df1570.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-04-02  8:28       ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-03  4:27         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 02/11] blockdev : convert qemu_driveadd && qemu_drivedel Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-storage 2/5] lvmplugin: add qcow2 snapshot Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-04-01 13:50   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 03/11] replace qemu_block_set_io_throttle with qom-set throttlegroup limits Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-storage 3/5] storage: vdisk_free: remove external snapshots Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-04-01 13:50   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-07 11:02     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-04-07 11:29     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 04/11] blockdev: vm_devices_list : fix block-query Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-04-02  8:10   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-11 17:32     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-storage 4/5] lvm: lvrename helper: allow path Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-04-01 13:50   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 05/11] blockdev: convert cdrom media eject/insert Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:28 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 pve-storage 5/5] lvm: add lvremove helper Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-04-01 13:50   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-03-11 10:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 06/11] blockdev: block_resize: convert to blockdev Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 07/11] blockdev: nbd_export: block-export-add : use drive-$id for nodename Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 08/11] blockdev: convert drive_mirror to blockdev_mirror Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 09/11] blockdev: change aio on target if io_uring is not default Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-03-11 10:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 10/11] blockdev: add backing_chain support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-04-02  8:10   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-03-11 10:29 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH v4 qemu-server 11/11] qcow2: add external snapshot support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-04-02  8:10   ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-04-03  4:51     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-04-04 11:31     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <3e516016a970e52e5a1014dbcd6cf9507581da74.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-04-04 11:37       ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2025-04-04 13:02         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel

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