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From: "Fabian Grünbichler" <f.gruenbichler@proxmox.com>
To: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com>,
	Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 01/13] blockdev: cmdline: add blockdev syntax support
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2025 16:17:04 +0200 (CEST)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <1715554393.3099.1749133024392@webmail.proxmox.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <3ae9921d-cc0a-460b-a560-b5edd97c1556@proxmox.com>


> Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com> hat am 05.06.2025 15:23 CEST geschrieben:
> 
>  
> Am 03.06.25 um 09:55 schrieb Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel:
> > +sub encode_nodename {
> > +    my ($type, $volid, $snap) = @_;
> > +
> > +    my $nodename = "$volid";
> > +    $nodename .= "-$snap" if $snap;
> 
> This will lead to clashes in some cases:
> 1. Currently, we allow attaching the same volume multiple times to a
> single guest.
> 2. You can end up with the same name for
> volname = vm-1234-disk-0-foo
> and for
> volname = vm-1234-disk-0, snap = foo
> 
> The latter can be rather easily fixed by just using a character we don't
> usually support for volume names, but not the former. So I'd like to do
> the switch to -blockdev without support for "looking up which node a
> certain volume is" at first. In general, I feel like mixing the switch
> to -blockdev with your larger series is too much at once. We should
> first get the switch to -blockdev completely and cleanly sorted out,
> then we can add your external qcow2 support on top.
> 
> I think we can even rely on auto-generated-by-QEMU node names at first.
> We can later switch to a variant where node names encode additional
> information. Or we could also think about patching QEMU to better fit
> the need for the "looking up which node a certain volume is" feature.
> But I don't think figuring this out should block us right now for the
> switch to "-blockdev".
> 
> I'll try to work out a series that focuses just on the switch to
> "-blockdev" based on your patches during the next week or so. Maybe not
> much else needs to be changed :) The work is certainly greatly appreciated!
> 
> @Fabian opinions?

I think this is a good disentanglement approach, provided we keep anything
"special" required by the qcow2 series in mind while doing so (to avoid
the need for double compat hacks).


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  reply	other threads:[~2025-06-05 14:16 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
     [not found] <20250603075558.627850-1-alexandre.derumier@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-qemu 1/1] add fake 10.0 Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 01/13] blockdev: cmdline: add blockdev syntax support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-05 13:23   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-06-05 14:17     ` Fabian Grünbichler [this message]
2025-06-05 14:39     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <ee4940c99e9866910405b492dad15c68718c49ea.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-06-06  7:50       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-06-06  8:27         ` Fabian Grünbichler
2025-06-06  9:54           ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-06-06  8:50   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-06-06  9:42     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <0605a27428cfb920ffefc51abdfec050a0a6b535.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-06-06 10:57       ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-06-10 14:03   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-06-11  6:37     ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]     ` <405662415075c0248618833b512b58258f80e0f7.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-06-11  7:24       ` Fiona Ebner
2025-06-11 14:02         ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
     [not found]         ` <733f5eefb25b76a0794a84d4f93ada8d70aea7be.camel@groupe-cyllene.com>
2025-06-11 14:13           ` Fiona Ebner
2025-06-12  5:20             ` DERUMIER, Alexandre via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 1/9] common: add qemu_img_create an preallocation_cmd_option Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 02/13] blockdev: add support for ovmf && efidisk Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 2/9] common: add qemu_img_create_qcow2_backed Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 03/13] blockdev: vm_devices_list : fix block-query Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-17 14:44   ` Fiona Ebner
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 3/9] common: add qemu_img_info helper Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 04/13] blockdev: add support to qemu_driveadd && qemu_drivedel Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 4/9] common: add qemu_img_measure Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 05/13] blockdev: add support to qemu_block_set_io_throttle Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 5/9] rename_volume: add source && target snap Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 06/13] blockdev: add support for cdrom media eject/insert Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 6/9] storage: volume_snapshot: add $running param + api bump Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 07/13] blockdev: add support for block_resize Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 7/9] qcow2: add external snapshot support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 08/13] blockdev: add support for nbd_export: block-export-add Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 8/9] lvmplugin: add qcow2 snapshot Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 09/13] blockdev: add blockdev_mirror Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-storage 9/9] storage: add volume_support_qemu_snapshot Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 10/13] blockdev: change aio on target if io_uring is not default Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 11/13] qemu_img convert : add external snapshot support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 12/13] blockdev: add backing_chain support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel
2025-06-03  7:55 ` [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server 13/13] qcow2: add external snapshot support Alexandre Derumier via pve-devel

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