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[me.com,proxmox.com,suma-informatika.hr] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Hi Ton=C4=8Di I am not familiar with PVE storage replication but with networks. Your answers to the questions below might help everyone on this list = (including me) to better understand the issues behind the problem you = are facing. > lowered replication speed down to 80MB/s Have you tried much lower rates (e.g. 10MB/s)? Did anything change in the bandwidth utilization? > replcation still uses whole NIC bandwith (1G) How do you know?=20 How do know that storage replication cloggs your network and not some = other apllication? Where do you measure the replication traffic and how? Are you running Jumbo frames (e.g. MTU 9000) between the replication = targets or standard MTU 1500? If you are not using a dedicated NIC for storage replication you are = likely (and should be) running on standard MTU.=20 Using the standard MTU will generate more packets than jumbo frames, = thus more headers, thus more overhead. A bandwidth limit of 80MB/s translates to rougly 640Mbit/s but I assume = that this does not include the overhead of protocols used by PVE storage = replication (Ethernet, TCP/IP, SSH). How much overhead in % do you expect? My conservative assumption (rule of thumb) for SSH with standard MTU is = 20% overhead.=20 That would be 768Mbit/s, leaving only 232Mbit/s for other traffic. What is your output of =E2=80=9Cpveversion=E2=80=9D? Regards Stefan > On Sep 6, 2024, at 16:00, Ton=C4=8Di Stipi=C4=8Devi=C4=87 = wrote: >=20 > Hello, >=20 > I'm running latest cluster (community support) >=20 > And today I've lowered replication speed down to 80MB/s but = replcation still uses whole NIC bandwith (1G) ... after few host = restarts still the same >=20 > 2024-09-06 14:37:31 using a bandwidth limit of 80000000 bytes per = second for transferring 'data2:subvol-1007-disk-0' >=20 > Does somebody else experience that too ? >=20 >=20 > Thank you in advance >=20 > BR >=20 > Ton=C4=8Di >=20 > --=20 > srda=C4=8Dan pozdrav / best regards >=20 > Ton=C4=8Di Stipi=C4=8Devi=C4=87, dipl. ing. elektr. > direktor / manager >=20 > SUMA Informatika d.o.o., Badali=C4=87eva 27, OIB 93926415263 >=20 > Podr=C5=A1ka / Upravljanje IT sustavima za male i srednje tvrtke > Small & Medium Business IT Support / Management >=20 > mob: 091 1234003 > www.suma-informatika.hr >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user --===============0844335378325444310== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ pve-user mailing list pve-user@lists.proxmox.com https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user --===============0844335378325444310==--