From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0B23C693D5 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:48:04 +0100 (CET) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id F0D0B21B74 for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:48:03 +0100 (CET) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.17.11]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (P-256) server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS id D6D6021B5A for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:48:02 +0100 (CET) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=web.de; s=dbaedf251592; t=1615412876; bh=ty1mbJtw3b3iaf+gpK7NI2s0G9GB92RCQIB7B+lms/c=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:To:From:Subject:Date; b=lY8Fr6PZbW61dcbEqibfFU42s+vkfxGdgN8KftIMzHVb0sE04Ljnk5sh5+Qq/iH/9 CtkwiYcwNNnvCWyCEfz3HPCDtPTQ1RLbc4GKFHB+1Y+ye0tKjUIkVJjPJ/pd9BNN8x R2pRYcUIdcjmZ+FThbvP/q9uH+JCqu/kgdpwwbds= X-UI-Sender-Class: c548c8c5-30a9-4db5-a2e7-cb6cb037b8f9 Received: from Rolands-MacBook-Pro.cybercon.de ([37.24.118.138]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb102 [213.165.67.124]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LilNJ-1ls3SD0xNF-00d0qV for ; Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:47:56 +0100 To: Proxmox VE user list From: Roland Message-ID: Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 22:48:00 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.13; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.8.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:qWSRP2Wa52JCdQtbIsOUywIyir9cqpV9Fk6ZQ4NCK0Fhy3EkZhn I8VNFxHFKD+wTh7+cKYU5hX+ac+6dGiBzxiLaQWWUv3hKxYjohw4pbC49OF+WKSOQx680tM mC2Pb5PtzNNPgQzo3YTe4Ob5VxNz2Vtb3oMc2po77ASmA0Udo8DfrEznHzvLkpiMRCoylMK fPFMkL2It2IRnzggBLn4g== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:tZcnIK6QFcE=:kqY2mVg2t1FzHBYc10R5lV Ki50d8dbWiXyQoyf8Q8yIS412Tx0hvMnW5w0R9P1nk6MVJbPG1asLtXw/YtkxAeRjbxqU5n0W kGCcz6prBGIHbVv2Zhu+RV7EAUgqI60pFHC4sjfQlnDp/1m4sVPD98IPJOIoptxo1wb2LLVuM TGaRFWOEsbg7dQmp9rihb+TwxXiunSZZWXa8R7VtIxSN1yHbHyaDDyMlshizG8ZYCZUrfORAR v7R8WFKMnTaFpQPLSyvlFkJV7GuCw6rnGuTXXgcDQ+j1/navGa2Y25sUF9fgHipQ0qslhk5Rx 3hlvkrqGkcdeRSPH7xWD+Oj8cf2PUfrxUX8MSjbjq9QEdVICuMLw+clQqxDUJ0pbaL3LdzaVx cfXa/si4nooLYxY9A9YwmaZyE3eLHsWs88ujnVbwot2VYry/5Dsp5ppYMoixEb6HZF39aCxCE ZdHFwIyByPb5mzcGWnN4wYiD8yG0UKe4VQw80/OPjZxQlzcNHduAWUYxyBayU10nL9qXmZfZ4 upN6Nu3J2uX59IXSi95iH66gV1TOy2YEAuBGzoez+ZtlEkgXCi1qQoP6MNDnAccYqaBDdKmM4 DlGH/GvBoHoq2qlF6nZhBH4yktazJMLr5F2iGVwBOc+/iKP56TM7BRlkinpZIIgRIpypfoMq+ /8F+Lp7UHRzV1/aghG1scrYi2U4YnMs/54N/eM8Z8lm9j0RsiOvu/28vEFFFV8IoiG9gd4SUM NVErNZzlBAo2PgIUfSwFAx5Yq96np/QYq2IcDX4C7u+OZ6qawmu+ksxoDst8hUIullxd7IwE2 EJwptsiPyoFB6SwnWgdZO4eYc0MjcDN2MWquCmq73+a1zfRT6NDTD+XzCWdtY1wLJpWOyC8KQ hSCPn1niEu+NdDp9Tuxg== X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain FREEMAIL_FROM 0.001 Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider HTML_MESSAGE 0.001 HTML included in message RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW -0.7 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, low trust RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3 0.001 Good reputation (+3) RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL 0.001 Mailspike good senders SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: [PVE-User] proxmox 2-node cluster - PVE install in VM as 3rd "quorum" node ? X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 Mar 2021 21:48:04 -0000 Hello, what would you prefer for a 3rd node in a 2-node server scenario at a branch office location ? 1. proxmox pve install in a virtual machine located on a 3rd server ( which is already there for special purpose. no VM will run there as there is no virtualization when installed as guest) 2. proxmox pve install on a thin client with AMD G-Series APU// 3. qdevice daemon on raspberry pi i would probably prefer 1. as a virtual machine is the moest easy to setup and most generic approach for me, especially that VM is getting backup... would that be worth consideration ? what would you choose - and why ? regards roland