From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E571F554 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 383AD1FF0D for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:51:33 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-lj1-x22e.google.com (mail-lj1-x22e.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::22e]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 13:51:32 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-lj1-x22e.google.com with SMTP id 38308e7fff4ca-2bffd6c1460so215467241fa.3 for ; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:51:32 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20230601; t=1695988285; x=1696593085; darn=lists.proxmox.com; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=LkzNS+aB2pi4Si6KLy9KW/YbWr/2jCtdf4U1wtV2Wvk=; b=TUZxB8W/+mv2To9G7g+NlQKmuhNsdpm9YB5x73EPrGsGw1Onai5JaQR67Th2wcckkH 8yEyMttl6Kn6dMdEqq9XAL+kvfO7pqW5+waxd7CuzykWZQc0Q2MMObQoQeyqs+8LuJxZ aitcptFM1pB5AXUowm+p8VY1qbyIkLmy2bAFJGHGoftAJaXEsy1Nme4MVfTzbM+i/bnj YzzIiNOK/qWobq8KSwOYW9RcCpgIx24FEB3x3Bz8zNbU7kb1bPPlWyXUTM/PslxOPADL z4+P3Q9OBngxtGbFzI/GVnfCVQcg5mr6ddqWBSmOApWWFQqGnzCW0RlYOYhb/XmzzuiK HlPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20230601; t=1695988285; x=1696593085; h=cc:to:subject:message-id:date:from:in-reply-to:references :mime-version:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=LkzNS+aB2pi4Si6KLy9KW/YbWr/2jCtdf4U1wtV2Wvk=; b=nul0mrFF5etCILK3HAEOqMQdaTNla32hx1kxQDJ2s2525zvSvNBnXFXl/IAbVgBUvs Xn17um+kkyR6iPnLp/8KjLSSclnEsz1CiF6yJSLn6yOkCd/QinnOL4kuijD+8/snu8y2 K8RAkKoqNmmxYdstxf75tYUjLNnDE1ordTEkTxYFAocUV6Yga+gbHFeGlLtHWUXRmzyf DczsCUMui8OKbeQW261Le68eiEAd1rrZzj5zrF43HFCdqIGZ3q8BTIpeNpgDym2FW7xs 2k+Jd6E2CJN7ZuPy2sYYoHZKiT9AnBgQQFk57PKlvSqc9KPF+dsQ27ABYGBG+YVvSuUy a4TQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOJu0Yz5GtZa5ouLN52qSDGy64QtnmN3dwrWwNkCoDLZbUnzqNX67goR WKlI0sdwt3QMtGZ72nJjNmdLkHcROho62qflzaM= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AGHT+IFnSJqUlOngoc5ls/JNAx4vtr5zGlBU/kHpQWVylQATBIDGmEGIDXTBePwBpn7TmbzWvoLjGEzjFynzo9LIWnY= X-Received: by 2002:a2e:9809:0:b0:2bf:e9e8:de23 with SMTP id a9-20020a2e9809000000b002bfe9e8de23mr3392201ljj.16.1695988285185; Fri, 29 Sep 2023 04:51:25 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <54aa55a8-98f9-459d-b2fa-48ec790fd443@proxmox.com> <73da3963-ac2f-36ca-6bfd-22a3a5b6723c@debianfan.de> In-Reply-To: <73da3963-ac2f-36ca-6bfd-22a3a5b6723c@debianfan.de> From: Gilberto Ferreira Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 08:50:48 -0300 Message-ID: To: sebastian@debianfan.de, Proxmox VE user list X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL 0.058 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain DMARC_PASS -0.1 DMARC pass policy FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT 0.25 Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit FREEMAIL_FROM 0.001 Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider HTML_MESSAGE 0.001 HTML included in message POISEN_SPAM_PILL_4 0.1 random spam to be learned in bayes RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record URIBL_BLOCKED 0.001 ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [proxmox.com] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Backup of all Containers and KVM X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:51:33 -0000 Yes. Vzdump is rather slow. You can try tweak /etc/vzdump.conf and set the tmp directory. But still, it's slow compared to PBS and there are no incremental backups. Not at all, since PBS use deduplication. --- Gilberto Nunes Ferreira (47) 99676-7530 - Whatsapp / Telegram Em sex., 29 de set. de 2023 =C3=A0s 08:44, sebastian@debianfan.de < sebastian@debianfan.de> escreveu: > Thx - i know how to use the vzdump-tool - but the last backup of an > lxc-container (500 GB) runs about 10 hours by using vzdump :-( > > > > Am 29.09.2023 um 10:24 schrieb Lukas Wagner: > > > > > > On 9/29/23 09:53, sebastian@debianfan.de wrote: > >> Hi, > >> > >> if i want to get a full backup - can i copy the 100,101... folders > >> complete to the backup server to get the data for an emergency > >> restore later? > >> > >> Or is it required to use the internal backup function to get Backup > >> files from containers and KVM and copy the dump-directory to the > >> backup server? > >> > > > > I'd recommend using PVE's backup function, it includes everything neede= d > > to fully restore the VM/CT. If you need to automate that from a script, > > you can use the `vzdump` command (check `man vzdump` or [1] for > > instructions). > > You can then copy the backup files from the dump directory. You could > > also add the backup server as a storage (NFS or SMB) [2], then you can > > backup to the server directly, without having to copy the backup > > archives. > > > > The '100, 101' folders - by which I think you mean the directories in > > /etc/pve/{qemu,lxc} only contain the configuration files for the VM/CT, > > but not the disk image. Of course, you can back them up manually and > > then dump the disk image as well, but like I said, unless you have a > > very good reason against PVE's native backup system (vzdump), I'd > > recommend using that. > > > > It might also be worth checking out Proxmox Backup Server, which has th= e > > additional benefit of offering deduplication, encryption, live-restore > > and much more. > > > > [1] https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/vzdump.1.html > > [2] > https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/pve-admin-guide.html#chapter_storage > > > > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >