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[proxmox.com, key-server.io] X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 25 Aug 2022 09:39:17 +0200 Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Shared SAN <> ZFS concept X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list <pve-user.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-user/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user>, <mailto:pve-user-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2022 14:30:32 -0000 For what it's worth, I did have proxmox setup at work with a dedicated box providing LVM lvs as iSCSI, and mdadm-raid6 underneath. It worked OK, but the added complexity is more trouble than it's worth. My current work doesn't use proxmox, but my personal setup right now is ZFS RAIDZ2 on SSDs, shared on a seperate network via NFS to my 3 proxmox hosts. --Kyle On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 2:50 AM Michael Rasmussen via pve-user <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> wrote: > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Rasmussen <mir@miras.org> > To: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:36:21 +0200 > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Shared SAN <> ZFS concept > On Wed, 17 Aug 2022 07:39:22 +0200 > Ton=C4=8Di Stipi=C4=8Devi=C4=87 <tonci@suma-informatika.hr> wrote: > > > Now I'm wandering is there any possibility to take advantage of this > > SAN storage in the "ZFS world"? I'm afraid not , but still hoping > > ... I really like feature zfs-storage-repl which means that VMs can > > be very quckly ready on another host/cluster (w/o need for > > backup/restore option) > > > > But, SAN storage by itself is already redundant though ... > > > > Thank very much in advance for your opinions/advices > > > > You could look at the zfs-over-iscsi provided the SAN is cable of: > 1) Using ZFS as filesystem > 2) Exposing volumes as LUN's > 3) Running SSHD > > It is not a shareable filesystem like NFS but more like a disk for a > specific VM which can be accessed from a number of Proxmox nodes but > only allowing access from a specific Proxmox node at any given time. > > -- > Hilsen/Regards > Michael Rasmussen > > Get my public GnuPG keys: > michael <at> rasmussen <dot> cc > https://pgp.key-server.io/pks/lookup?search=3D0xD3C9A00E > mir <at> datanom <dot> net > https://pgp.key-server.io/pks/lookup?search=3D0xE501F51C > mir <at> miras <dot> org > https://pgp.key-server.io/pks/lookup?search=3D0xE3E80917 > -------------------------------------------------------------- > > 'During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a > revolutionary act.' -George Orwell > > /usr/games/fortune -es says: > Not that I have anything much against redundancy. But I said that > already. -- Larry Wall in <199702271735.JAA04048@wall.org> > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Michael Rasmussen via pve-user <pve-user@lists.proxmox.com> > To: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > Cc: Michael Rasmussen <mir@miras.org> > Bcc: > Date: Wed, 17 Aug 2022 18:36:21 +0200 > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Shared SAN <> ZFS concept > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user