From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 66ECD60AC7 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 12:06:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id 59AB810348 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 12:06:55 +0100 (CET) Received: from mail-ej1-x629.google.com (mail-ej1-x629.google.com [IPv6:2a00:1450:4864:20::629]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS id D76F910332 for ; Tue, 1 Dec 2020 12:06:52 +0100 (CET) Received: by mail-ej1-x629.google.com with SMTP id f23so3244216ejt.8 for ; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:06:52 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=tecnetmza-com-ar.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=zUVUybMAlFSAQpAzySgZHnQgsnGumOxI4kO2t0IFPLs=; b=B4fKbIUFvoN18iOgqqWI9JT3Pk8hWn44EIeF2AIriFacl6L2YQPMDn6Fj7ZwSxrg/q fQKaP2a/2bGS8z1yPLFTwGrXD1+EekIPBmTQ8N5zrv9bTFiyodOupp58jacU9b2yP7lv QY/vkWseZFg4EguxAyeFtV3tX7oDOU+fYrgaC2bVDr/M7O556gFOWicdMEAwBNDPsB91 4qf5jMKzT1KO4PTWyWyihYVv23//m63Rr+yfllYIwVrVc9PJI7PnsNQtNlZl60nO7rdL HyleqxGhQ35JaOs3hyTopUqzXB9NAuVMTnQqZ5GLvCvoho6VS/KvOucZR6Q9vLU+irWf bgXw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:references:in-reply-to:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=zUVUybMAlFSAQpAzySgZHnQgsnGumOxI4kO2t0IFPLs=; b=NwXQS5q4Ho2VzAZBvuVtajISdGAXFZKzaikTy4Xr6qVsEY1jmZ6K8zT6NocBXRpKEL CT/+mgMYMU/ut3cA5jOWW5i1mkGWcZRYL3hwidmkFyi1s3LbFvv2yWZFMxB2+nKTOxEm uLCPa0YuzxnzbgLFrB0xla5r3PDPo+nrDk6KvWYQbUn7KPitqKmvGtlOnvkIIkGBYJ/W OoOUDEiiKmcu1WgYJa/EG0He06PYSCNiIHLAugxq3xsKvtpAC4l1DWkrnPegP8nP4vyD PK5EBoPo79s6bhjUotNH30YA/IXLTlTq2lW06v12yW5gg7oOYZsuCv0dExthWJpX/fuz QG6A== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533cBOydT4qzBuwgYzcs6/IPcXrgeQvgvVgyy7F3xPqk7imDOoJA jB12BbOwSTL8Nq/kHFlBJ9bIjHEBF5PttqyX5br6oC6RuA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJyrAilJu7G86LYmCUCP0UoIKEEwL3PD0EltxjsU9+ZpwK2NOR0Wl2vtrkcgSQl84a2mVheywXqVSpJmRq1ifPk= X-Received: by 2002:a17:906:a183:: with SMTP id s3mr2524607ejy.60.1606820805951; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 03:06:45 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: In-Reply-To: From: Leandro Roggerone Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 08:06:36 -0300 Message-ID: To: Proxmox VE user list X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 1 AWL 0.300 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature HTML_MESSAGE 0.001 HTML included in message NUMERIC_HTTP_ADDR 0.001 Uses a numeric IP address in URL RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_SOFTFAIL 0.972 SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) URIBL_BLOCKED 0.001 ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [ginernet.com, proxmox.com] Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [PVE-User] moving machines among proxmoxs servers. X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 01 Dec 2020 11:06:55 -0000 Thanks , very clear !! El lun, 30 nov 2020 a las 14:38, Jos=C3=A9 Manuel Giner via pve-user (< pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>) escribi=C3=B3: > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Jos=C3=A9 Manuel Giner" > To: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > Cc: > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:28:32 +0100 > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] moving machines among proxmoxs servers. > Hi, unfortunately Proxmox does not have a feature like vzmigrate that > allows you to move a VPS from one Proxmox to another on different network= s. > > You need a cluster. And if you want to do a live migration, the cluster > must include a shared datastore with the VMs hosted on it. > > > > On 30/11/2020 18:10, Leandro Roggerone wrote: > > Alejandro , thanks for your words. > > Let me explain: > > About live migration ... yes I think this is what I need to achieve. > > So basically you can "drag and drop" VMs from one node to another ? > > > > What do I need to achieve this ? / Only have one node. > > My current pve bos is in production with very important machines runnin= g > on > > it. > > I will add a second pve server machine soon. > > But , I dont have any network storage , so the question would be: > > Having two pve machines (already running and fresh one) is it possible = to > > perform live migrations? > > or is it mandatory to have an intermediate hardware or something like > that? > > > > Regards, > > Leandro. > > > > > > > > > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_= campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail > > > > Libre > > de virus. www.avast.com > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_= campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail > > > > <#m_-8318222231522076233_DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > > > El lun, 30 nov 2020 a las 13:45, Alejandro Bonilla via pve-user (< > > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com>) escribi=C3=B3: > > > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Alejandro Bonilla > >> To: Proxmox VE user list > >> Cc: > >> Bcc: > >> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:45:29 +0000 > >> Subject: Re: [PVE-User] moving machines among proxmoxs servers. > >> > >> > >>> On Nov 30, 2020, at 11:21 AM, Leandro Roggerone < > >> leandro@tecnetmza.com.ar> wrote: > >>> > >>> Hi guys. > >>> Just wondering if is it possible to move machines without outage ? > >> > >> I thought at first you were referring to a live-migration which is eas= y > to > >> achieve > >> > >> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D25 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.363 ms > >> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D26 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.397 ms > >> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D27 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.502 ms > >> Request timeout for icmp_seq 28 > >> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D29 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.366 ms > >> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D30 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.562 ms > >> 64 bytes from 10.0.0.111: icmp_seq=3D31 ttl=3D64 time=3D0.469 ms > >> > >> And certainly happens with little to no outage. > >> > >>> What do I need to achieve this ? > >> > >> More than one node (cluster), storage, then perform a migration=E2=80= =A6 using > >> storage like Ceph will make the migration way faster. > >> > >>> Currently have only one box ... > >> > >> And then I got confused. Are you trying to migrate from another > hypervisor > >> or you are just asking if it=E2=80=99s possible at all and then would = add > another > >> box? > >> > >>> Thanks. > >>> Leandro. > >>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > >> From: Alejandro Bonilla via pve-user > >> To: Proxmox VE user list > >> Cc: Alejandro Bonilla > >> Bcc: > >> Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 16:45:29 +0000 > >> Subject: Re: [PVE-User] moving machines among proxmoxs servers. > >> _______________________________________________ > >> pve-user mailing list > >> pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > >> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user > >> > > > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_= campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail > > > > Libre > > de virus. www.avast.com > > < > https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=3Demail&utm_source=3Dlink&utm_= campaign=3Dsig-email&utm_content=3Dwebmail > > > > <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> > > _______________________________________________ > > pve-user mailing list > > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user > > > > -- > Jos=C3=A9 Manuel Giner > https://ginernet.com > > > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "Jos=C3=A9 Manuel Giner via pve-user" > To: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > Cc: "Jos=C3=A9 Manuel Giner" > Bcc: > Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2020 18:28:32 +0100 > Subject: Re: [PVE-User] moving machines among proxmoxs servers. > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >