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See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [proxmox.com, volny.cz] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox VE 8.1 released! X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 22:36:23 -0000 Hello Martin, I'm sorry for stupid question, but I don't quite follow what the OpenZFS = 2.2.0 with "the most important bugfixes from 2.2.1" means. there is issue 15526 (https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15526 = ) in openzfs that enables = block cloning feature by default and that on linux "eats" data. OpenZFS 2.2.1 specifically switches the block cloning on by default to = off by default and nothing else. ( = https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/commit/479dca51c66a731e637bd2d4f9bba01a05f9= ac9f = ) So is the code at 2.2.0 (toxic) eating data by default or at 2.2.1 where = block cloning is disabled by default and therefore safe? Thank you for clarification, JV > On 23. 11. 2023, at 15:27, Martin Maurer wrote: >=20 > We're very excited to announce the release 8.1 of Proxmox Virtual = Environment! It's based on Debian 12.2 "Bookworm" but uses a newer Linux = kernel 6.5, QEMU 8.1.2, and OpenZFS 2.2.0 ((with stable fixes = backported) >=20 > Here is a selection of the highlights of Proxmox VE 8.1 >=20 > - Debian 12.2 (=E2=80=9CBookworm=E2=80=9D), but uses a newer Linux = kernel 6.5 as stable default > - latest versions of QEMU 8.1.2 and ZFS 2.2.0 including the most = important bugfixes from 2.2.1 already > - Software-defined Networking (SDN) > - Secure Boot > - New flexible notification system with matcher-based approach > - Ceph Server: Ceph Reef 18.2.0 is default, and Ceph Quincy 17.2.7 = comes with continued support. > -Countless GUI and API improvements. >=20 > As always, we have included countless bugfixes and improvements on = many places; see the release notes for all details. >=20 > Release notes > https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Roadmap >=20 > Press release > https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/ >=20 > Video tutorial > = https://www.proxmox.com/en/training/video-tutorials/item/what-s-new-in-pro= xmox-ve-8-1 >=20 > Download > https://www.proxmox.com/en/downloads > Alternate ISO download: > https://enterprise.proxmox.com/iso >=20 > Documentation > https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs >=20 > Community Forum > https://forum.proxmox.com >=20 > Bugtracker > https://bugzilla.proxmox.com >=20 > Source code > https://git.proxmox.com >=20 > There has been a lot of feedback from our community members and = customers, and many of you reported bugs, submitted patches and were = involved in testing - THANK YOU for your support! >=20 > FAQ >=20 > Q: Can I upgrade latest Proxmox VE 7 to 8 with apt? > A: Yes, please follow the upgrade instructions on = https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_7_to_8 >=20 > Q: Can I upgrade an 8.0 installation to the stable 8.1 via apt? > A: Yes, upgrading from is possible via apt and GUI. >=20 > Q: Can I install Proxmox VE 8.1 on top of Debian 12 "Bookworm"? > A: Yes, see = https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_12_Bookworm >=20 > Q: Can I upgrade my Proxmox VE 7.4 cluster with Ceph Pacific to = Proxmox VE 8.1 and to Ceph Reef? > A: This is a three-step process. First, you have to upgrade Ceph from = Pacific to Quincy, and afterwards you can then upgrade Proxmox VE from = 7.4 to 8.1. As soon as you run Proxmox VE 8.1, you can upgrade Ceph to = Reef. There are a lot of improvements and changes, so please follow = exactly the upgrade documentation: > https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Ceph_Pacific_to_Quincy > https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_7_to_8 > https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Ceph_Quincy_to_Reef >=20 > Q: Where can I get more information about feature updates? > A: Check the roadmap, forum, the mailing list, and/or subscribe to our = newsletter. >=20 > --=20 > Best Regards, >=20 > Martin Maurer > Proxmox VE project leader >=20 >=20 > _______________________________________________ > pve-user mailing list > pve-user@lists.proxmox.com > https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user