From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by lists.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E43F771F76 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 16:06:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id D9D40EFD6 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 16:06:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: from mail-pf1-x433.google.com (mail-pf1-x433.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::433]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 (128/128 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTPS id 78D74EFC8 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 16:06:38 +0200 (CEST) Received: by mail-pf1-x433.google.com with SMTP id b26so1001061pfr.3 for ; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:06:38 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=subject:to:references:from:message-id:date:user-agent:mime-version :in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding:content-language; bh=IQ/hk+5rrjOcqr6zLUI5QodHQAOXRzu13aX13ZmFaxI=; b=XPDJKt3KiBnuDg4ATnJuL53oC7T47XHHngUl2l382HDIz+f5rTBHybFcJuWk7xUZNY XOPBhOPiXQO097BS92qNnfytGuhs79EzzRvEf0SdnlgcFLcLAbxbisDAzGKKy/uN5TCJ bFGOEHx2n3IHa5Kvu43/hXyydcmy0gAC4ovlmmpy3TKfIOrjQOnvZd4al9AmsV7ImsZw dnYCfcU7Kr6T+zvjKjwRjL/BZezQ+ABnOpWJ0A3cUM/iWFFDt3KCam+ZTjCcdep8BjY8 PLQeVjuKg7huntmN/75Dc9xl+Xxl5sGiWI77/JD330NjUfJJcUxS3330ptWCHG+ONV36 WgPA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:subject:to:references:from:message-id:date :user-agent:mime-version:in-reply-to:content-transfer-encoding :content-language; bh=IQ/hk+5rrjOcqr6zLUI5QodHQAOXRzu13aX13ZmFaxI=; b=Ait/aQaT6VvRjVFV/Wt2fnKNERtr7sq5yvZdsREMnkYqZf9Iae1QetdU/rAPLNb9Wz 66yR6EU+4GygMcDOalLVTMfig4uWBty362A2p8seRRhCFSsA4YB8BlHe7iZhvNk7097p UyGp2FIVh2k0Wb7wxKouZ00MvdaqsZpMhP4fNYXdOc5snN9KEX8zy7M63QIBeTSc7I0M jNs7S3pK1FWvG+OnZyTBB0Kq031gjwWtJ5AzrjgBulmBPtFHXeJmL5gt/uKE0XMLS1VG kcJclUSTWMe+hPDngX9Wb+Pzx5IPmqE6cXqTmNzeRs+KFdvq6y9e5qN32wrT5hEJg82W mKVg== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM533+wokSemTYjQxVAI0c8TN7SUEo27GIhV3FAvN8z41LrNnA8QCj w7ZuA8ZVooH6IAR/ZarJOvPj/KzXhQ9rpA== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwfT9pvYRwjsZyDawgkU2OrfFviFNsauP54PsbKjdmoqX8fwXtLYEe8AEGpcv5otk2jywa6/w== X-Received: by 2002:a62:ab06:0:b029:249:db1c:3d7d with SMTP id p6-20020a62ab060000b0290249db1c3d7dmr1946106pff.72.1618063590624; Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:06:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.11] (167-179-176-9.a7b3b0.bne.nbn.aussiebb.net. [167.179.176.9]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id w21sm5317077pjy.52.2021.04.10.07.06.27 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Sat, 10 Apr 2021 07:06:29 -0700 (PDT) To: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com References: From: Lindsay Mathieson Message-ID: <90b0f7df-ca15-f9cd-b76a-0f8f26e24917@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 11 Apr 2021 00:06:19 +1000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:78.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/78.9.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Language: en-US X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL 0.042 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address DKIM_SIGNED 0.1 Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid DKIM_VALID -0.1 Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature DKIM_VALID_AU -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain DKIM_VALID_EF -0.1 Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from envelope-from domain FREEMAIL_FROM 0.001 Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider NICE_REPLY_A -0.001 Looks like a legit reply (A) RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE -0.0001 Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record Subject: Re: [PVE-User] PBS Incremental and stopped VM's X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 10 Apr 2021 14:06:38 -0000 On 10/04/2021 11:43 pm, Arjen via pve-user wrote: > Just to be clear: PBS always makes a full backup. The resulting data is deduplicated (before sending it to the server), which almost always reduces the writes to the server. Ah, I see now, thanks, I didn't understand that part of things. Looking at the logs of my 2nd backup, I see that stopped VM's had zero bytes written to the backup server. -- Lindsay