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[debianfan.de, proxmox.com] Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Backup of all Containers and KVM X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 29 Sep 2023 11:44:53 -0000 Thx - i know how to use the vzdump-tool - but the last backup of an lxc-container (500 GB) runs about 10 hours by using vzdump :-( Am 29.09.2023 um 10:24 schrieb Lukas Wagner: > > > On 9/29/23 09:53, sebastian@debianfan.de wrote: >> Hi, >> >> if i want to get a full backup - can i copy the 100,101... folders >> complete to the backup server to get the data for  an emergency >> restore later? >> >> Or is it required to use the internal backup function to get Backup >> files from containers and KVM and copy the dump-directory to the >> backup server? >> > > I'd recommend using PVE's backup function, it includes everything needed > to fully restore the VM/CT. If you need to automate that from a script, > you can use the `vzdump` command (check `man vzdump` or [1] for > instructions). > You can then copy the backup files from the dump directory. You could > also add the backup server as a storage (NFS or SMB) [2], then you can > backup to the server directly, without having to copy the backup > archives. > > The '100, 101' folders - by which I think you mean the directories in > /etc/pve/{qemu,lxc} only contain the configuration files for the VM/CT, > but not the disk image. Of course, you can back them up manually and > then dump the disk image as well, but like I said, unless you have a > very good reason against PVE's native backup system (vzdump), I'd > recommend using that. > > It might also be worth checking out Proxmox Backup Server, which has the > additional benefit of offering deduplication, encryption, live-restore > and much more. > > [1] https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/vzdump.1.html > [2] https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs/pve-admin-guide.html#chapter_storage >