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From: =?UTF-8?Q?=C3=93scar_de_Arriba?= <oscar@dearriba.es>
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I ended up reinstalling th server and using ZFS this time. It solved all=
 the issues - the ghost used space is back and I could restore even a VM=
 3x times bigger without any slowdown.=20

Not sure what happened but with all that space occupied my best guess is=
 that during the restoration of VMs LVM was getting out of blocks to use=
 and needed to do some cleanups, which led to that slow performance at ~=
5Mbps. However, it is strange that I could not find anyone else facing t=
his issue.

On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, at 17:58, =C3=93scar de Arriba wrote:
> Update: I have enabled `Discard` option in all disks of the VMs on tha=
t server and then `fstim` did the work and freed some space.
>=20
> However, even removing all VMs except one (which is hard to remove wit=
hout disruption) I can see that:
>=20
> root@venom:~# lvs
>   LV            VG  Attr       LSize   Pool Origin Data%  Meta%  Move =
Log Cpy%Sync Convert
>   data          pve twi-aotz-- 377.55g             60.65  0.67        =
                   =20
>   root          pve -wi-ao----  60.00g                                =
                   =20
>   swap          pve -wi-ao----   4.00g                                =
                   =20
>   vm-201-disk-0 pve Vwi-aotz--   4.00m data        14.06              =
                   =20
>   vm-201-disk-1 pve Vwi-aotz--  40.00g data        56.58
>=20
> Which means that I have about 200 GB used out of nowhere :( At least i=
t is no longer under pressure of being almost 100% full.
>=20
> On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, at 11:48, =C3=93scar de Arriba wrote:
>> Any idea why it still has 96.23% of space used but the VMs are using =
way less? I'm starting to worry a lot about it (I don't kant tobe really=
 full) and my current only hope is backup + reinstall PVE.
>>=20
>> Thanks,
>> Oscar
>>=20
>> On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, at 11:01, Martin Holub wrote:
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Am 28.12.2022 um 12:44 schrieb =C3=93scar de Arriba:
>>>> Hi Martin,
>>>>=20
>>>> > Did you try to run a fstrim on the VMs to regain the allocated sp=
ace? At least on linux something like "fstrim -av" should do the trick.
>>>>=20
>>>> I did it now and it freed ~55GiB of a running isntance (the one wit=
h 128 GiB allocated). However that should only free blocks of the LV use=
d to store that VM disk, right? And the issue itself is that the sum of =
maximum allocations of those disks is much lower than the space occupied.
>>>>=20
>>>> I also have the feeling that those blocks remain used by a no longe=
r existant LVs, but I don't know how to fix it.
>>>>=20
>>>> Should I also enable trim/execute trim on Proxmox itself?
>>>>=20
>>>> Oscar
>>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>> Hi,
>>>=20
>>> TRIM only works on a filesystem level, so you can't trim a VG or sim=
ilar. On the pve host i doubt it will help, but it wouldn't harm either.=20
>>>=20
>>> hth
>>> Martin
>>>=20
>>>=20
>>=20
>=20