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See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [reddit.com, proxmox.com, volny.cz] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.29 Subject: Re: [PVE-User] Proxmox VE 8.1 released! X-BeenThere: pve-user@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE user list List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 23 Nov 2023 22:43:59 -0000 h= ttps://www.reddit.com/r/zfs/comments/1826lgs/psa_its_not_block_cloning_its= _a_data_corruption/ = found this one in meantime, no idea what's the current state of affairs = in proxmox ... JV > On 23. 11. 2023, at 23:35, Jan Vlach wrote: >=20 > Hello Martin, >=20 > I'm sorry for stupid question, but I don't quite follow what the = OpenZFS 2.2.0 with "the most important bugfixes from 2.2.1" means. >=20 > there is issue 15526 (https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/issues/15526 = ) in openzfs that enables = block cloning feature by default and that on linux "eats" data. >=20 > OpenZFS 2.2.1 specifically switches the block cloning on by default to = off by default and nothing else. ( = https://github.com/openzfs/zfs/commit/479dca51c66a731e637bd2d4f9bba01a05f9= ac9f = ) >=20 > So is the code at 2.2.0 (toxic) eating data by default or at 2.2.1 = where block cloning is disabled by default and therefore safe? >=20 > Thank you for clarification, > JV >=20 >> On 23. 11. 2023, at 15:27, Martin Maurer > wrote: >>=20 >> We're very excited to announce the release 8.1 of Proxmox Virtual = Environment! It's based on Debian 12.2 "Bookworm" but uses a newer Linux = kernel 6.5, QEMU 8.1.2, and OpenZFS 2.2.0 ((with stable fixes = backported) >>=20 >> Here is a selection of the highlights of Proxmox VE 8.1 >>=20 >> - Debian 12.2 (=E2=80=9CBookworm=E2=80=9D), but uses a newer Linux = kernel 6.5 as stable default >> - latest versions of QEMU 8.1.2 and ZFS 2.2.0 including the most = important bugfixes from 2.2.1 already >> - Software-defined Networking (SDN) >> - Secure Boot >> - New flexible notification system with matcher-based approach >> - Ceph Server: Ceph Reef 18.2.0 is default, and Ceph Quincy 17.2.7 = comes with continued support. >> -Countless GUI and API improvements. >>=20 >> As always, we have included countless bugfixes and improvements on = many places; see the release notes for all details. >>=20 >> Release notes >> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Roadmap = >>=20 >> Press release >> https://www.proxmox.com/en/news/press-releases/ >>=20 >> Video tutorial >> = https://www.proxmox.com/en/training/video-tutorials/item/what-s-new-in-pro= xmox-ve-8-1 >>=20 >> Download >> https://www.proxmox.com/en/downloads >> Alternate ISO download: >> https://enterprise.proxmox.com/iso >>=20 >> Documentation >> https://pve.proxmox.com/pve-docs >>=20 >> Community Forum >> https://forum.proxmox.com >>=20 >> Bugtracker >> https://bugzilla.proxmox.com >>=20 >> Source code >> https://git.proxmox.com >>=20 >> There has been a lot of feedback from our community members and = customers, and many of you reported bugs, submitted patches and were = involved in testing - THANK YOU for your support! >>=20 >> FAQ >>=20 >> Q: Can I upgrade latest Proxmox VE 7 to 8 with apt? >> A: Yes, please follow the upgrade instructions on = https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_7_to_8 >>=20 >> Q: Can I upgrade an 8.0 installation to the stable 8.1 via apt? >> A: Yes, upgrading from is possible via apt and GUI. >>=20 >> Q: Can I install Proxmox VE 8.1 on top of Debian 12 "Bookworm"? >> A: Yes, see = https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Install_Proxmox_VE_on_Debian_12_Bookworm >>=20 >> Q: Can I upgrade my Proxmox VE 7.4 cluster with Ceph Pacific to = Proxmox VE 8.1 and to Ceph Reef? >> A: This is a three-step process. First, you have to upgrade Ceph from = Pacific to Quincy, and afterwards you can then upgrade Proxmox VE from = 7.4 to 8.1. As soon as you run Proxmox VE 8.1, you can upgrade Ceph to = Reef. There are a lot of improvements and changes, so please follow = exactly the upgrade documentation: >> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Ceph_Pacific_to_Quincy >> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Upgrade_from_7_to_8 >> https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Ceph_Quincy_to_Reef >>=20 >> Q: Where can I get more information about feature updates? >> A: Check the roadmap, forum, the mailing list, and/or subscribe to = our newsletter. >>=20 >> --=20 >> Best Regards, >>=20 >> Martin Maurer >> Proxmox VE project leader >>=20 >>=20 >> _______________________________________________ >> pve-user mailing list >> pve-user@lists.proxmox.com >> https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-user >=20