From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <pve-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com> Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (firstgate.proxmox.com [212.224.123.68]) by lore.proxmox.com (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6DD881FF17C for <inbox@lore.proxmox.com>; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:10:11 +0200 (CEST) Received: from firstgate.proxmox.com (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by firstgate.proxmox.com (Proxmox) with ESMTP id B9597D0E7; Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:09:59 +0200 (CEST) Date: Wed, 2 Apr 2025 11:09:57 +0200 From: Gabriel Goller <g.goller@proxmox.com> To: Christoph Heiss <c.heiss@proxmox.com> Message-ID: <mqlwud75ugovnx3j67bhhkej53kp7boun7g26gyb7j42iuf2jx@x7miazl2j3hg> Mail-Followup-To: Christoph Heiss <c.heiss@proxmox.com>, Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com> References: <20250328171340.885413-1-g.goller@proxmox.com> <20250328171340.885413-53-g.goller@proxmox.com> <D8W0V7A166IQ.12UUD63VWDJAA@proxmox.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <D8W0V7A166IQ.12UUD63VWDJAA@proxmox.com> User-Agent: NeoMutt/20241002-35-39f9a6 X-SPAM-LEVEL: Spam detection results: 0 AWL -0.024 Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address BAYES_00 -1.9 Bayes spam probability is 0 to 1% DMARC_MISSING 0.1 Missing DMARC policy KAM_DMARC_STATUS 0.01 Test Rule for DKIM or SPF Failure with Strict Alignment SPF_HELO_NONE 0.001 SPF: HELO does not publish an SPF Record SPF_PASS -0.001 SPF: sender matches SPF record Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH pve-docs 1/1] fabrics: add initial documentation for sdn fabrics X-BeenThere: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-devel>, <mailto:pve-devel-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-devel/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-devel-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel>, <mailto:pve-devel-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com> Cc: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: pve-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com Sender: "pve-devel" <pve-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com> On 02.04.2025 10:49, Christoph Heiss wrote: >On Fri Mar 28, 2025 at 6:13 PM CET, Gabriel Goller wrote: >[..] >> + >> +Installation >> +~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> + >> +We use the FRR implementations of OpenFabric and OSPF, so first you need to >> +install `frr` and the `frr-pythontools` package: > >Rather try to avoid first-person, as per our style guide [0]. > >Could be rephrased as e.g. > > The FRR implementations of OpenFabric and OSPF are used, so first the > `frr` and `frr-pythontools` packages must be installed: > >[0] https://pve.proxmox.com/wiki/Technical_Writing_Style_Guide#Avoid_first_person Oops, yeah my oversight. >> + >> +---- >> +apt update >> +apt install frr frr-pythontools >> +---- >> + >[..] >> + >> +[[pvesdn_openfabric_node]] >> +On the Node >> +^^^^^^^^^^^ >> + >> +Node:: Select the node which will be added to the fabric. Only nodes that >> +currently are in the cluster will be shown. >> + >> +Router-ID:: A unique IPv4 or IPv6 address used to generate the OpenFabric >> +Network Entity Title (NET). Each node in the same fabric must have a different >> +Router-ID, while a single node must use the same NET address across all fabrics >> +(this consistency is automatically managed by {pve}). >> + >> +NOTE: When using IPv6 addresses, we use the last 3 segments to generate the >> +NET. Ensure these segments differ between nodes. > >Same here w.r.t. first person ("we use"). Fixed this as well. >> + >> +Interfaces:: Specify the interfaces used to establish peering connections with >> +other OpenFabric nodes. Preferably select interfaces without pre-assigned IP >> +addresses, then configure addresses in the IPv4/IPv6 column if needed. A dummy >> +"loopback" interface with the router-id is automatically created. >> +Interface-specific settings override the global fabric settings. >> + >> +The following optional parameters can be configured per interface when enabling >> +the additional columns: > >Perhaps this sentence should be made a bit more prominent, e.g. as >sub-heading? It's easy to read over it and miss it, but it's quite >important piece of information. Especially if your not *that* familiar >with the UI and enablable columns. > >There are advanced options, so hiding them by default is good IMO - just >a bit confusing to have big headings with the option names but nowhere >to enable them (directly). I thought about adding section (even though this is not exactly a different panel in the UI), e.g., On The Interface ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ So we'd have: OpenFabric - On the Node - On the Interface - On the Fabric and obviously the same with OSPF. What do you think? Thanks for looking through this! _______________________________________________ pve-devel mailing list pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel