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Thanks Fiona.
We would like to do plugin integration POC. So, for that to get started, we=
would like to know various interfaces of these plugins. Is there any detai=
led API documentation available for these plugins? Also, do you have any te=
st app code which integrates with the plugins to try out?
Thanks
Prashant
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Cc: Anuradha Joshi <Anuradha.Joshi@veritas.com>; Sudhir Subbarao <Sudhir.Su=
bbarao@veritas.com>; Jason Voneberstein <Jason.vonEberstein@veritas.com>
Subject: Re: [pve-devel] About PVE Backup Integration Guide
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Am 18.03.25 um 09:59 schrieb Prashant Patil:
> We have tried the steps mentioned here to create copy-before-write
> snapshot -
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> However, one of the commands 'blockdev-replace' fails with below error:
> {"error": {"class": "CommandNotFound", "desc": "The command
> blockdev-replace has not been found"}}
>
> Is the command available in any specific qemu version? Is there any other=
command that we should be using instead if blockdev-replace?
No, it has not yet been implemented neither upstream nor downstream. The la=
test proposed iteration is here [0].
> We are happy to integrate with backup provider APIs if they are stable an=
d ready for the integration. On this same thread, I had asked few questions=
about APIs timelines. Could you please help us to get that info?
Thomas already answered this in the very first response:
> We would be open to fast-track this effort for inclusion with feedback
> from backup vendors. While there are other ways to hook one in, these
> are not nice and can cause problems - so in the long term we expect
> that most/all backup vendors will switch to this plugin method, at
> least for supported setups.
I sent v5 of the patch series today [1]. Again, I would highly recommend to=
try and develop your solution with that API for proper integration.
Otherwise, it's 100% up to you not to cause conflicts with the Proxmox VE s=
ystem with your backup solution, and naturally, we cannot give you much hel=
p with development (or later with debugging user issues) of a fully separat=
e backup stack.
It would be appreciated if you could give us feedback and tell us what part=
s of it work and what parts might be difficult to work with for your scenar=
io. Then we might still be able to adapt to your requirements.
Adapting things retroactively means that there is less freedom to change th=
e interface, so now is the best chance.
[0]:
https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20240626115350.405778-1-vsementsov@yande=
x-team.ru/
[1]:
https://lore.proxmox.com/pve-devel/20250321134852.103871-1-f.ebner@proxmox.=
com/T/
Best Regards,
Fiona
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