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[proxmox.com] Subject: Re: [pve-devel] [PATCH qemu-server] virtiofs: prevent issue with Windows OS and too many files X-BeenThere: pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel.lists.proxmox.com> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/options/pve-devel>, <mailto:pve-devel-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.proxmox.com/pipermail/pve-devel/> List-Post: <mailto:pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com> List-Help: <mailto:pve-devel-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel>, <mailto:pve-devel-request@lists.proxmox.com?subject=subscribe> Reply-To: Proxmox VE development discussion <pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com> Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; Format="flowed" Errors-To: pve-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com Sender: "pve-devel" <pve-devel-bounces@lists.proxmox.com> On 2025-05-02 14:13, Fiona Ebner wrote: > Am 02.05.25 um 13:52 schrieb Markus Frank: >> On 2025-04-28 12:17, Fiona Ebner wrote: >>> As reported in the community forum [0] and the virtio-win project [1], >>> virtiofsd will run into its open file limit when used with a Windows >>> guest that reads too many files. It's also reported that the issue >>> does not occur with Linux guests and a workaround is using >>> '--inode-file-handles=mandatory' on virtiofsd command line. >> I was able to reproduce the issue with a directory containing a million >> files. >> The virtiofs share became unusable when I tried to list the files with >> 'ls'. >> This patch allows to list all the files without problems. >>> >>> The option is described as follows in the vritiofsd help: >> typo: virtiofsd > > Will fix! > >>> >>>> When to use file handles to reference inodes instead of O_PATH file >>>> descriptors (never, prefer, mandatory) >>> >>> and the default is 'never'. >>> >>> Fix the above issue by using 'prefer' rather than 'mandatory', because >>> that should not break other edge cases: >>> >>>> prefer: Attempt to generate file handles, but fall back to O_PATH >>>> file descriptors where the underlying filesystem does not support >>>> file handles. Useful when there are various different filesystems >>>> under the shared directory and some of them do not support file >>>> handles. >>> >>> [0]: https://forum.proxmox.com/threads/165565/ >>> [1]: https://github.com/virtio-win/kvm-guest-drivers-windows/issues/1136 >>> >>> Signed-off-by: Fiona Ebner <f.ebner@proxmox.com> >> Tested-by: Markus Frank <m.frank@proxmox.com> >>> --- >>> >>> Didn't get around to measure the performance impact yet, so feel free >>> to check that if you test this patch. While not being broken is more >>> important than good performance, it would still be good to know for >>> completeness. >> I made a few read/write tests with fio in a Windows 11 guest. > > Since the option affects file handles, it would be more interesting to > test something that involves handling many files rather than just IO. Okay, here is a test that creates 10000 4kB files. without this patch (/usr/libexec/virtiofsd --fd=15 --shared-dir=/share --announce-submounts --syslog): PS Z:\> fio --name=filetest --rw=write --bs=4k --size=4k --numjobs=10 --filesize=4k --directory="testdir" --ioengine=windowsaio --create_on_open=1 --file_service_type=random --nrfiles=10000 --runtime=30 --time_based --group_reporting fio: this platform does not support process shared mutexes, forcing use of threads. Use the 'thread' option to get rid of this warning. filetest: (g=0): rw=write, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=windowsaio, iodepth=1 ... fio-3.39 Starting 10 threads Jobs: 4 (f=18): [_(3),f(1),_(2),f(1),_(1),f(2)][100.0%][eta 00m:00s] filetest: (groupid=0, jobs=10): err= 0: pid=8000: Fri May 2 15:45:44 2025 write: IOPS=967, BW=3870KiB/s (3962kB/s)(114MiB/30049msec); 0 zone resets slat (nsec): min=0, max=632300, avg=20663.88, stdev=13715.30 clat (usec): min=494, max=12174, avg=2302.34, stdev=676.20 lat (usec): min=512, max=12195, avg=2323.00, stdev=675.62 clat percentiles (usec): | 1.00th=[ 1037], 5.00th=[ 1352], 10.00th=[ 1532], 20.00th=[ 1745], | 30.00th=[ 1926], 40.00th=[ 2073], 50.00th=[ 2212], 60.00th=[ 2376], | 70.00th=[ 2573], 80.00th=[ 2802], 90.00th=[ 3195], 95.00th=[ 3523], | 99.00th=[ 4228], 99.50th=[ 4490], 99.90th=[ 5211], 99.95th=[ 5669], | 99.99th=[ 8455] bw ( KiB/s): min= 1621, max= 4387, per=99.24%, avg=3840.90, stdev=41.34, samples=600 iops : min= 401, max= 1094, avg=957.38, stdev=10.37, samples=600 lat (usec) : 500=0.01%, 750=0.10%, 1000=0.70% lat (msec) : 2=34.57%, 4=62.77%, 10=1.86%, 20=0.01% cpu : usr=0.00%, sys=0.00%, ctx=0, majf=0, minf=0 IO depths : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0% submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0% complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0% issued rwts: total=0,29069,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0 latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1 Run status group 0 (all jobs): WRITE: bw=3870KiB/s (3962kB/s), 3870KiB/s-3870KiB/s (3962kB/s-3962kB/s), io=114MiB (119MB), run=30049-30049msec with this patch (/usr/libexec/virtiofsd --fd=15 --shared-dir=/share --announce-submounts --inode-file-handles=prefer --syslog): PS Z:\> fio --name=filetest --rw=write --bs=4k --size=4k --numjobs=10 --filesize=4k --directory="testdir" --ioengine=windowsaio --create_on_open=1 --file_service_type=random --nrfiles=10000 --runtime=30 --time_based --group_reporting fio: this platform does not support process shared mutexes, forcing use of threads. Use the 'thread' option to get rid of this warning. filetest: (g=0): rw=write, bs=(R) 4096B-4096B, (W) 4096B-4096B, (T) 4096B-4096B, ioengine=windowsaio, iodepth=1 ... fio-3.39 Starting 10 threads Jobs: 6 (f=318): [_(1),f(1),_(1),f(1),_(1),f(2),_(1),f(2)][100.0%][eta 00m:00s] filetest: (groupid=0, jobs=10): err= 0: pid=8872: Fri May 2 15:55:39 2025 write: IOPS=964, BW=3859KiB/s (3952kB/s)(113MiB/30028msec); 0 zone resets slat (nsec): min=0, max=1623.2k, avg=20705.88, stdev=16208.95 clat (usec): min=462, max=25441, avg=2312.40, stdev=778.69 lat (usec): min=489, max=25458, avg=2333.11, stdev=778.39 clat percentiles (usec): | 1.00th=[ 996], 5.00th=[ 1336], 10.00th=[ 1516], 20.00th=[ 1745], | 30.00th=[ 1926], 40.00th=[ 2089], 50.00th=[ 2245], 60.00th=[ 2409], | 70.00th=[ 2573], 80.00th=[ 2802], 90.00th=[ 3163], 95.00th=[ 3523], | 99.00th=[ 4228], 99.50th=[ 4490], 99.90th=[ 5473], 99.95th=[ 7832], | 99.99th=[25035] bw ( KiB/s): min= 1180, max= 4385, per=98.89%, avg=3816.80, stdev=44.92, samples=600 iops : min= 291, max= 1094, avg=952.10, stdev=11.25, samples=600 lat (usec) : 500=0.01%, 750=0.14%, 1000=0.86% lat (msec) : 2=33.73%, 4=63.43%, 10=1.79%, 20=0.02%, 50=0.03% cpu : usr=0.00%, sys=0.00%, ctx=0, majf=0, minf=0 IO depths : 1=100.0%, 2=0.0%, 4=0.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, >=64=0.0% submit : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0% complete : 0=0.0%, 4=100.0%, 8=0.0%, 16=0.0%, 32=0.0%, 64=0.0%, >=64=0.0% issued rwts: total=0,28969,0,0 short=0,0,0,0 dropped=0,0,0,0 latency : target=0, window=0, percentile=100.00%, depth=1 Run status group 0 (all jobs): WRITE: bw=3859KiB/s (3952kB/s), 3859KiB/s-3859KiB/s (3952kB/s-3952kB/s), io=113MiB (119MB), run=30028-30028msec _______________________________________________ pve-devel mailing list pve-devel@lists.proxmox.com https://lists.proxmox.com/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/pve-devel